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Post by bobafetch0007 on Feb 27, 2007 6:55:55 GMT -5
AWESOME!!! "Company Man" was awesome!!!!
Now we know Bennet's origins and now I want to know just how the invisible man survived?
I don't think ha went over the bridge, but it seems that Claire is super confident in her powers I mean she told Parkman to shoot her and tranquilized the Radioactive guy (sorry I forget some of the names very easily) I'm just waitng till she gets hurt and somehow doesn't heal!
also Bennet getting killed off the show is gonna be interesting.....Now Claire is gonna get experimented on!!! Unless she "RUN's"!!! and next week we are supposed to find out who "the man behind it all" is....lol CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!
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Post by grievous on Feb 27, 2007 7:23:50 GMT -5
Uh, Bennet's not dead and Claire has already escaped. The whole ending scene proved that. Haitian shot Bennet in a spot that wouldn't kill him and then wiped his memory of the whole escape plan before running off with Claire so they'd both be safe.
What I find much more interesting is Takei/Hiro's Dad being in on the "specials". Does he know about Hiro and, if he does, does he not turn him in for the same reason as Bennet? Could that possibly be why he had Hiro kidnapped and brought back to Japan, so he could stop him from thinking he was "special" so he wouldn't be experimented on?
"The man behind the curtain" is Linderman. Period. End of story. The only other possibility is Peter and Nathan's dad who faked his suicide. At least, those are my theories.
Perhaps I was right about the death not being real but I have a feeling that scene in the preview was some sort of vision.
Last, I am so incredibly glad that they didn't give HRG a first name! I was pondering that yesterday afternoon before the episode aired. I mean, going just by HRG and Mr. Bennet makes him an incredibly mysterious character. If it turned out his name was Steve Bennet, Billy Bennet, Fred Bennet, Bob Bennet, (my personal favorite) Bo Bennet, or any other normal name he wouldn't have that awesome allure.
Also, I want HRG glasses when I'm old. They're just so cool! ;D
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Post by malform on Feb 27, 2007 7:50:10 GMT -5
AWESOME!!! "Company Man" was awesome!!!! Now we know Bennet's origins and now I want to know just how the invisible man survived? I don't think ha went over the bridge, but it seems that Claire is super confident in her powers I mean she told Parkman to shoot her and tranquilized the Radioactive guy (sorry I forget some of the names very easily) I'm just waitng till she gets hurt and somehow doesn't heal! also Bennet getting killed off the show is gonna be interesting.....Now Claire is gonna get experimented on!!! Unless she "RUN's"!!! and next week we are supposed to find out who "the man behind it all" is....lol CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!! Ummm... Sounds to me like you missed the whole point to the end of the show. Bennet is NOT dead. Why then would he tell the haitian to shot him "right here, just an inch higher and Im dead.", and then of course tell him to "go deep, remove anything that can lead them to Claire"... I mean, why wipe the memory of a dead guy? Also, I think its very clear that Claire IS now on the run, with the haitian helping her.
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Post by bobafetch0007 on Feb 27, 2007 15:41:00 GMT -5
OOO I missed the part where he said "just an inch higher or im dead" that might of been when I went to the bathroom.......awww........ well thx for telling me that, all I saw was they went to the bridge and when I came back Bennet was lying down and the Haitian guy holding a gun.................oooo and it looks like (o wats her name) Issac accidentally shot her last episode, anyways looks like she has a power! Healing like Clarie! Maybe she is in on the whole thing with the paper company and that's why she kept telling Peter and Issacc they didn't have a power that way they wouldnt get experimented on!!!
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Post by grievous on Feb 27, 2007 17:15:20 GMT -5
I kinda doubt that Simone is back but there are three explanations that could tell how she's still alive in the next episode:
1. Simone has a power! However, this is completely nullified by the fact that the creator of the show has stated several times that she isn't a "special". They could all have been red herrings but I kind of doubt it.
2. Simone never actually died! This one is a bit long and tricky. The idea is that the whole thing was a setup by Peter and Simone to force Isaac to realize who is real friends are and stop working with HRG. Peter was in Isaac's apartment for an unknown period of time, a period during which he could have traded out the bullets in the gun with blanks. Simone actually had a stunt vest on with blood packets in them (often used for stunts in movies) which she activated when shot, giving her a bloodied appearence.
3. Simone is a dream/vision! This is the most likely answer. Both Isaac and Peter have displayed vision based powers and you also can't rule out one hallucinating and seeing things. I'd put money on this being it but anything goes in Heroes.
As far as Simone being "in" on the Organization Without Initials (OWI, therefore defeating the purpose) it is very, very possible. It turns out that the location of the flashback sequence where HRG met with Hiro's Dad, is in fact the apartment roof of the late Charles Deveaux, Simone's father. However, the theory of Simone actual being a part of the OWI is defeated via the fact that she wants Nathan to go public with the news that there are "specials". The whole point of the OWI is to cover this fact up and it wouldn't make sense for a member to want to defeat that point. A better theory would be that Simone was either at one point a member of the OWI or stumbled upon it due to her father's involvement and wants to bring it down.
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Post by greyelephant on Feb 27, 2007 18:14:48 GMT -5
I don't think that Simone is special. I think it is a trick by Sylar to get to Peter. I could be wrong though.
Great episode! I really loved the ending. It was really sweet just how much he loved her. I think it's really cool that she is on the run.
If they would have gotten their hands on her they would have experimented relentlessly. Imagine having an army of soldiers that basically can't die. Very powerful indeed. He knew that and that's why he let her get away. She would have basically been living in captivity until they could find out what makes her tick. She would have been cut open, put through various tests, and killed many times to find the gene that makes her special.
Can't wait for next week now.
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Post by Radar on Mar 1, 2007 19:20:44 GMT -5
How can Simone not be special? She was on the magical roof with the stargate architecture. ...No, she's bulltetproof of can't bleed to death, or...something.
Isn't the roof the key to everything? Save the roof, save the cheerleader....wait that's not right...
Here's my big question. WHERE WAS HANA GILDERMAN? I was pretty sure Wireless went in the house in the episode before last, now she's not there?
So is George Takai going to kill Mr. Bennets' wife and son? They know what is going on now. They have company secrets. He could not justify letting them live.
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Post by grievous on Mar 1, 2007 19:34:01 GMT -5
Simone can't be special because the creator said so. Hana Gilderman was busy. You could always check out the graphic novels found here. The one explaining Hana's absence is "Path of the Righteous". Basically, she was trying to track down the OWI's head honcho. On a whole different note, here's another theory about Simone living. Apparently in the preview it is Isaac and HRG, not peter, in the room when Simone "rises from the dead". Not only that but the dead Simone can be seen behind the "living" Simone. HRG's new partner (the chick in the room when he and his boss were talking about Parkman) is described with the following passage; "Candice Wilmer (guest star Missy Peregrym) makes an illusive debut". Illusive could mean illusion meaning she could easily make the false Simone appear. I really like the idea and it'd be an awesome new ability to see on the show.
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Post by grievous on Mar 6, 2007 8:00:24 GMT -5
WARNING: Heroes - Episode 18: "Parasite" SPOILERS AHEAD!!
Huzzah! I was partially right in stating that Simone was a part of a different person's power. I'll admit that it isn't completely clear if HRG's partner casts an illusion on herself or actually morphs like Mystique but it's still close enough.
Linderman is incredibly awesome. He's so flipping cool and not what you'd expect from a mob boss/casino owner/evil guy hunting down specials. "Now you won't get any of my pot pie," is one of the greatest lines EVAR! (misspelling intended)
Anyone else think that this is where Peter gets his scar that Future Hiro mentioned way back in the series? It makes sense but now I have to wonder how he gets out of this situation with Sylar...
Well, now we know who is the "higher power in your daughter's life" that The Haitian was speaking of. It's grandma ;D! Now we just have to figure out how she's in on all this...
"Parsite" was an awesome, awesome episode and now we have to sit on our hands until late April to see more. DANG YOU NBC!!
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Post by malform on Mar 6, 2007 8:50:21 GMT -5
This interaction with Sylar may very well be where this scar future Hiro talks about comes from... But that got me thinking, why would he get any scar at all if he has super healing? Doesnt sound right at all.
I think Sylar is in for a big shock. Peter is just as powerful, if not more powerful than he is. I think after we are done waiting a bit more than a month, we are going to see one giant super human smack down!
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Post by greyelephant on Mar 6, 2007 18:53:10 GMT -5
Great episode! I loved the ending with Peter screaming. The scar? I don't remember anything about a scar. I would have to agree that it doesn't make sense that he would get scars. The cheerleader never got scars.
The fight between Peter and Sylar is going to be great. I can't wait to see Peter shove Sylar through a wall. Disapearing won't work for Peter seems how Sylar has the super hearing now. However any powers that Sylar has added since they last meet will start working for Peter as well.
Should be neat.
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Post by bobafetch0007 on Sept 30, 2007 14:59:23 GMT -5
Well.....it's been a while, and Episode 1 of Season 2 has already aired! I think it would be wrong to stop such a beautiful tv show's thread so soon.
SO I AM REVIVING IT!
Anyways first off a quick re-cap:
Peter Petrelli, who is presumed dead after a nuclear blast above Manhattan, turned up with amnseia in Cork, Ireland. His White House-bound brother, Nathan, is now out of politics and drowning his grief and guilt in booze. Mind reader Matt is suddenly single-there's no mention of his pregnant wife- and he's taken a job with the NYPD. Plus, there's a creepy new slayer in town: Kaito Nakamura, was murdered by a mysterious hooded figure who seems intent in picking off the older generation of heroes. Claire's family has moved to California, and are trying to be "low-profile" as well. They have changed their family name to Butler, and Claire isn't allowed to make friends or even raise her hand in class! She soon falls for a fellow class-mate (West) who coincidentally has the power of flight, like Nathan Petrelli! Hiro is in fuedal Japan (year....1687), where he soon discovers his hometown hero, "Takezo Kensei"! Hiro also learns that Takezo isn't as great as he thought! He turns out to be a Japanese speaking englishman, and alchoholic! We are also introduced to Bob, a "hero" who has the ability to turn things to gold, Alejandro, and Maya.
Well there you go! A nice little re-cap! Now for my opinion:
How far can Claire go, until she can't "regen"? I personally think she can re-grow body parts back, but I also belive that if the top of her head is cut off, and brain removed (Sylar's "TM" way of killing heroes) that she can't heal. Now for another interesting theory (that doesn't completely make sense) This one applies to Peter. I had an interesting thought earlier that maybe the powers of the heroes that Peter obtainsm, are lost once that hero dies! (I realize this is kind of confusing) But this would expain why Peter's scar didn't heal. Now remember when Hiro told Peter to "save the cheerleader, save the world" Claire had died (which is why Hiro Pete to save her from Sylar) So at the current time future Hiro came from Pete would have had the scar, and Claire would be dead....... Sooo...that's kind of interesting. But I also had another interesting idea. Referring to Grievous's thought way back. Maybe Hiro is Takezo Kensei! Now I saw a picture of Hiro and Kensei, which looked as if he was training Hiro! So I think after Hiro's "training" Kensei gets killed, and Hiro takes his place, and his name! This would explain Japan's depiction of Takezo as actually being Japanese in the pictures. Well, thats all I got for now, feel free to comment!
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Post by malform on Sept 30, 2007 21:16:42 GMT -5
I kind of thought the "Takezo = Hiro" theory was blown out of the water when Hiro came face to face with him. And the further thoughts of Hiro taking his place after he has fallen is very interesting. But really, such a switch-a-roo isnt really necessary for history to remember a "hero" in a much different light than was actually reality.... Especially history this old.
Im not a fan of your theory of ho Peter's powers may work either.... It goes against the teachings of Claude, who said "Your body remembers how".... The powers are not tied up via proxy, so why would it matter if someone died?
Also, it was never made clear when Peter got the rather nasty looking scar we saw in the alternate future from the first season. So we dont really know if he had acquired it before or after Clair was killed and assimilated by alternate future Sylar.
Finally, I agree completely with the Claire head chopping statement. It seems rather obvious when you think of that alternate future where Claire was dead and Sylar actually had her powers.... OH! This is a bit of an assumption on my part.... But I believe in this alternate future Peter still had Claire's powers, even after she was dead..... I say this because I really doubt he could have went head to head in battle at the end with Sylar like he did if he werent able to regenerate.
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Post by greyelephant on Oct 1, 2007 16:53:26 GMT -5
So what's the deal with Peter's brother seeing himself in the mirror and he looked burned? I thought he only flew? Is he maybe someone else? Does he have other powers we are not aware of? Seems kind of weird.
I am curious as to what the Latino girl does. Maybe high screech that blows up peoples minds? Windows were not broken on the truck so that would negate that idea. However, I am curious, because she killed everyone in the truck somehow.
BTW, did anyone else watch Chuck? I found it to be great!
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Post by grievous on Oct 1, 2007 17:57:40 GMT -5
On Claire's weakness, one must remember that early in the series, she got a stick jammed into her brain and wasn't able to heal until after the stick was pulled out. This very strongly implies that if the brain is damaged and unable to heal (in this case, unable to heal because the stick was lodged in it), then her entire body can't heal. In essence, Claire is a zombie. The only way to kill her is to destroy her brain.
Hiro is SO the historical Takezo Kensei. I've called it since the beginning and I'll keep on calling it.
Nathan's burning is an odd point. Personally, I feel it's supposed to symbolize his guilt over Peter's apparent death. Nathan felt he should have been burned and, therefore, sees himself like that in the mirror. So, if you ask me, I'd put my money on that scene being dramatic storytelling symbolism and nothing more. I can't confirm that, though.
Finally, it was revealed in the graphic novels that Maya (the Latino woman) is carrying some sort of infectious disease power. Wherever she goes, people die, their blood turns black, and they start bleeding out the eyes. However, when her brother, Alejandro, is near her, the power is apparently nullified. This explains why he insisted on staying with her. The reason they're heading for the United States is because they believe that Mohinder's father is still alive and that he can cure Maya.
The one thing this episode really has ME thinking about is who the person that is haunting Molly is. That whole bit is really interesting.
Oh, that, and Mr. Bennet is still badass. "I will drink my coffee when I want to drink it." One of the best television characters, period.
Tonight has me super-hyped. The season premiere opened up so many story possibilities like what's up with Peter and how Mohinder, Bennet,. The main thing I'm looking forward to, though, is a rumor that has to do with Kensei.
*Very Non-descript Rumored Spoilers Ahead*
Supposedly, Kensei has a power and it will be revealed tonight. If it's the power that is rumored, I will be so hyped to see it in action. It is easily one of the coolest superpowers ever.
That is all.
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