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Post by greyelephant on Nov 20, 2007 19:54:02 GMT -5
I am thinking Mohindar probably used Claires blood to "fix" the mess he made of Bennett.
Adam doing it would be pretty cool though. I could see him joing up with Peter and Adam to try to take the company down.
Mohindar is a dork. I am ready to see him go if you know what I mean. ;D
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Post by grievous on Nov 20, 2007 20:44:25 GMT -5
I personally think that last night's episode was the best one since the "Days of Future Past"-style episode where they went forward in time. Definitely the best of the season, at least.
First, I think that Matt being able to implant thoughts into people's brains is insanely cool and I think we might be seeing the start of Matt going "HRG" and starting to do whatever it takes to get the job done. It, combined with locking people into nightmares, makes Matt's powers much more useful. He's gone from passive thought reading to aggressive thought manipulating. Awesome.
Second, Elle had some of the best lines in this episode and the best line ever was said in regards to her. "Stings like a bi*ch, don't it?" Great scene. Also, the fact that she's starting to get more character than before due to HRG's scene with her is awesome. More on that next.
Third, HRG beat the painting! How awesome is that?!? The question is, who healed him? We can presume from the setting that he is in the Company compound so we'll start from that assumption. Mohinder, who is the most likely subject, is definitely the type to do the fixing. He worked with Bennet and would probably want to clean up the mess he made. Bob could have healed HRG simply due to his prior work for the Company as a sort of "trade" and might try to hold this over HRG's head to try and get him to rejoin. Adam/Peter is a possible candidate but one must remember that the chance of them knowing HRG got killed, was in the Company headquarters, finding him, hiding him, and then hooking him up to the tubes is sort of a stretch. Finally, my personal favorite even if it's unlikely, is that Elle did it. She seemed to respect HRG for his "dad" talk and also recoiled from Bob in the van, showing HRG broke through to her and instilled a little doubt. One helpful turn for another? Unlikely but 'twould be awesome.
Also, the ending was so cool. It hearkened back to one of the really early episodes where it ended with Claire on the autopsy table. Heck, the scene was practically the same. Person on gurney who is "dead", revives, and exclaims "Holy---" as the episode blacks out.
Finally, I think the next episode COULD be even better. Why? Adam finally runs back into Hiro for the first time in 400 years. After all those centuries of stewing, Adam is surely going to go ape when he sees Hiro. Hiro has his father's honor to avenge and the need to fix his worst mistake. That showdown should be amazing if it's done right. Plus, Sylar is back in the game! Hopefully he goes in and whomps some goodie-goodie butt!
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Post by Leumas on Nov 20, 2007 22:51:11 GMT -5
Just a quick question... Why do you guys call Noah HRG? I can't figure out what it stands for...
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Post by grievous on Nov 20, 2007 23:32:54 GMT -5
HRG = Horn-rimmed Glasses It's a classic acronym from before anyone knew Bennet's first name... which I swear I will never, ever use. Bennet is too cool for a first name, he should be referred to by only his last name or his acronym. But that's just my opinion .
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Post by Whiz Kid on Nov 21, 2007 16:20:47 GMT -5
I was SOOOOO ticked about Noah until I realized during the commercial that if Adam's blood could heal, so could Claire's. I hadn't considered that the Company might have Adam and Peter's blood too... point is, I was jumping out of my seat when I saw the ending of the episode. Pure awesome. Third, HRG beat the painting! How awesome is that?!? The question is, who healed him? We can presume from the setting that he is in the Company compound so we'll start from that assumption. Mohinder, who is the most likely subject, is definitely the type to do the fixing. He worked with Bennet and would probably want to clean up the mess he made. I wondered if, with only two eps left, maybe this was a REALLY extended plan of Mohinder and Noah... Think about it: what better way to get Noah into Company HQ than to KILL him and bring him back to life once he's inside? It's the ultimate in Trojan Horse scenarios. It's probably not likely, but I think it's certainly a possibility. I noticed and loved that moment too. Like daughter, like father?
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Post by bobafetch0007 on Nov 21, 2007 19:01:57 GMT -5
All I want to know is, WHERE THE HECK IS MONICA?!?!
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Post by bobafetch0007 on Dec 4, 2007 7:35:19 GMT -5
Well now that we have seen Monica in the previous two episodes I am a little more satisfied (I thought her power was gonna be kick @$$! But it turned out terribly!!!)
Sylar is so freakin sweet there aren't words to describe him. Nikki is finally dead! Adam is unfortunately, in a casket a few feet below the ground. (He is one of my favorite characters fro some reason.) And Peter is back on the good side! (I actually enjoyed him working with Adam.) Nathan's dead, and who didn't love hearing the words "FLYING MAN!" for what looks to be the last time.
I hope that Peter will be smart enough to know his blood can heal his brother, but they might just keep him dead. I am starting to dislike the fact that everytime someone dies, we know they could possibly be brought back to life with either Claire, Peter, or Adam's blood (Depending on whether or not the company kept any of Adam's blood.)
I also enjoyed all of Heroes little "revenge scenes." Nearly everytime he was knocked out. The second and third time I couldn't help but chuckle, but in the end he didn't have the mental strentgh to kill Adam.
Volume 3: "Villians" is sure to be great!
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Post by grievous on Dec 4, 2007 8:57:57 GMT -5
Holy crap, last night was awesome. From all of Hiro's attempts at taking down Adam to Sylar getting his powers back (YES!!) to the ending. My gosh the ending was so freaking awesome to me. However, I have criticisms. The characters acted SO stupidly in this episode. For example, Peter could have just phased through the safe wall. Sure, one could theoretically say they had traps against it but he never tried and Adam never said that. Instead, they had to be all dramatic and have him rip it off telepathically. Another example: HRG. Bennet was so awesome this episode when he was sitting in his cell bouncing the ball off the wall with mechanical precision and the way he's slowly started "fixing" Elle is awesome since electro-powers are cool. But, how stupid was it of him to just go and re-join the Company? After all that time trying to take it down, killing his mentor and all that. That scene with Mohindar where he swears you can never trust anything the Company promises him or tells him, and he goes and trusts the Company. Stupid. Now, what I liked: Elle taking down Sylar was awesome. However, Sylar's return to pure evil was even awesome-er. About time. The way Hiro took down Adam is amazing, especially considering that he just went back to the office like he thought nothing of it . Really, I don't think the problem was "lacking mental strength", I think the problem was two-fold. In universe, think about which is worse: dying or being trapped in a small confined space for eternity. No matter what you believe about the afterlife, I would much, much prefer death. Adam probably has that worse considering he's already been around for 400 years. I know I'd be ready to die by then. Second, is a plot reason. I bet money we'll be seeing Adam again. Someone will end up digging Adam out of that grave and he'll probably end up hunting Hiro with a vengeance... and on a different note, I loved the confrontation between those two in the cell. "You taught me how to be a villain." Finally, the ending. I can't stop thinking about the ending. Now, to understand this, go here. Read through all of that. This "insider" called every single bit of the last two episodes except for the ending. Now, that leads me to believe one simple thing. This was a purposeful leak meant solely to make spoiler fanatics (like myself) sit up and go "what the..." I was expecting the entire time for the episode to end with Nathan trying to fly and then not being able to, making the press conference switch over to the stated "virus" version. I thought that maybe nuking this virus wasn't enough and it was that resistant. Instead, Nathan gets shot out of nowhere. You should've seen my face . However, I don't think Peter will heal him for multiple reasons. One, Peter doesn't know that his blood can heal as well. Heck, we don't even know for sure. It might be limited only to people who actually have the power while Peter simply mimics the self-healing. Second, I don't think the Company will be wanting to heal Nathan after that stunt . Third, there is probably a time limit to when they can be healed. After a while, the body should decay to the point where they can't be healed, probably an hour tops. Finally, that'd really kill the series . And last, but not least, my theories on the killer: HRG or Mr. Petrelli. Both are sorta random but we know HRG is back with the Company so there's his reason. Mrs. Petrelli was talking to someone on that phone and it could very well have been Arthur Petrelli and not Bob like it would be if it was HRG. There you go. Whenever Heroes comes back in '08, remember those two theories .
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Post by ionicdesign on Dec 4, 2007 10:28:52 GMT -5
For example, Peter could have just phased through the safe wall. Sure, one could theoretically say they had traps against it but he never tried and Adam never said that. Instead, they had to be all dramatic and have him rip it off telepathically.Bre and I kept saying that...why doesn't he just pull a kitty and walk through the wall? LOL I cannot believe Peter as previously established would be that stupid. And on that note did he destroy the virus or r elease it?? I'd have taken a little more care in destroying a world ending plague myself…
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Post by grievous on Dec 4, 2007 11:31:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he nuked the crap out of the virus which would likely kill it. I mean, how else could he get rid of it for good? Teleport it into space and hope he has enough air to make it back? I'm not sure what else he could do...
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Post by ionicdesign on Dec 4, 2007 11:50:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he nuked the crap out of the virus which would likely kill it. I mean, how else could he get rid of it for good? Teleport it into space and hope he has enough air to make it back? I'm not sure what else he could do... Nit sure, but a lot of effort from their f/x crew was put into making a sizable cloud of dust come off the residue, which makes me wonder. To clarify my previous point about being stupid that was mostly in teaming with Adam despite the evidence, not the door thing, although that didn't help much either.
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Post by Radar on Dec 4, 2007 12:14:02 GMT -5
Ok, so Nikki is finally gone (yeah), which eliminates both DL and Nikki from the story line (it's about time), but what do you want to bet that they will come back in some dream/spirit form to help Micah. I can see it now, "turn off your targeting computer Micah, trust your feelings".
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Post by greyelephant on Dec 4, 2007 15:25:48 GMT -5
Posted by grievous on Today at 9:57am And last, but not least, my theories on the killer: HRG or Mr. Petrelli. Both are sorta random but we know HRG is back with the Company so there's his reason. Mrs. Petrelli was talking to someone on that phone and it could very well have been Arthur Petrelli and not Bob like it would be if it was HRG. There you go. Whenever Heroes comes back in '08, remember those two theories |
My first thought was that it was HGR. Which would be interesting due to Nathan being Claire's real dad. I didn't think about Mr. Petrelli doing it. That would make sense seems how Mrs. P. was obviously talking to someone about "how it had to be done". Villains? Nikkie bites the dust, huh? Well, now Micah won't have her or his dad to help him. It would be interesting to see if he doesn't become a "Villain" himself. That to me would make for some interesting twist. It doesn't pay to be a hero, but maybe it does to be a villain. ;D Sylar would be most interested in finding Adam now that he made a powerful enemy of the Hispanic girl. Someone else is going to rise up to the villain status as well. We should see some new faces coming 08.
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Post by Radar on Dec 4, 2007 15:35:15 GMT -5
That would be so funny, we think Sylar is a bad guy for killing a few dozen people, but Micah might grow up and become a terror. He could walk by a hospital and just shut it down, destroy all modern technology as we know it and bring a halt to American civilition. So, maybe it's best if Sylar gets him early.
I was talking to one of my friends recently about why Sylar choose not to take Maya's power. He mentioned that she hadn't yet reached her full potiential. So do you think that Sylar is letting people "level up" to get the most experience points out of the kill? Just a thought.
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Post by greyelephant on Dec 4, 2007 15:44:54 GMT -5
Posted by Radar on Today at 4:35pm I was talking to one of my friends recently about why Sylar choose not to take Maya's power. He mentioned that she hadn't yet reached her full potiential. So do you think that Sylar is letting people "level up" to get the most experience points out of the kill? Just a thought. |
Nah, I think he takes it as it comes. I don't see much patience in him.
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