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Post by malform on Mar 23, 2007 9:45:42 GMT -5
Well... Heres my two scoops on the whole idea of turning him around as many times as you want.
Its pointless isnt it? If you rotate him 180 degrees and you dont knock over the figure you were hoping to, then you likely wont be able to on another 2 or 3 passes. That is, unless while you are rotating over and over, you are actually moving the base a little at the same time.
And I keep envisioning this scenario where Im playing against an incredibly annoying kid... He sits there at each of his turns and insists on rotating his spiderman mega no less then 20 times. And counts each and every rotation loudly, and annoyingly... I know this seems silly, but I can imagine this one particular kid from botcon being so annoying.
Thats why, I would personally say, one rotation, 180 degrees, and your done. If you dont succeed in knocking over a figure, tough luck, better luck next turn eh?
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Post by grievous on Mar 23, 2007 10:33:47 GMT -5
I just got done shooting a video proving/disproving my point simultaneously. While it makes sense to go all the way around, it also is mostly pointless because even if you are doing your best to NOT kill a figure, you most likely will. However, this is still something that needs to be cleared up in light of the rules.
Also, I never meant if you missed the figure. If you miss the first time you'll miss every other time. I more meant if you had the figure being dragged with it whether you could then keep going until you knock it down. However, as my video will show, it is very difficult to not kill a figure even when you're doing your best to just move it.
Lastly, the annoying kid junk is a waste. You call stalling on the kid or just start randomly firing missiles at him. Only an idiot would keep on rotating if there was no chance of getting a kill.
I'll edit the video I'm talking about in later or put it into a new post to show what I mean. The whole argument, in my opinion, is more about what is the proper way to attack rather than if you can attack indefinitely and this is something that needs to be known if this figure is ever going to see play.
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Post by Radar on Mar 23, 2007 10:37:58 GMT -5
Is Sandman's base actually gold colored, or is it sand colored?
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Post by grievous on Mar 23, 2007 10:52:31 GMT -5
I took a serious look at that this morning and from what I can tell it is a much lighter tan than even the second round of gold-based figures so I'd say he isn't gold-based but just thematically colored. A very nice thing about his base, though, is that rather than having the SVT-style "impossible to tell apart gold or white" it is black or white like the first batch of gold-basers. It actually kind of makes me sad. Base colors used to mean stuff. Chrome means they're harder to find, silver means they're tournament, gold means they're promo/limited edition. With Sandman and Wampa we now have figures who's bases are different colors "just because". I understand wanting to have a theme but I preferred when the colors meant something. Anyways, my video is done but it'll take a bit to process. The link is below... Spider-Man Attacktix Mega
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Post by attacktixguy900 on Mar 23, 2007 15:13:37 GMT -5
I took a serious look at that this morning and from what I can tell it is a much lighter tan than even the second round of gold-based figures so I'd say he isn't gold-based but just thematically colored. A very nice thing about his base, though, is that rather than having the SVT-style "impossible to tell apart gold or white" it is black or white like the first batch of gold-basers. It actually kind of makes me sad. Base colors used to mean stuff. Chrome means they're harder to find, silver means they're tournament, gold means they're promo/limited edition. With Sandman and Wampa we now have figures who's bases are different colors "just because". I understand wanting to have a theme but I preferred when the colors meant something. Anyways, my video is done but it'll take a bit to process. The link is below... Spider-Man Attacktix Megareally nice video Grievous!
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Post by greyelephant on Mar 23, 2007 17:11:34 GMT -5
I found these sets at Target today. They should be in all stores soon, I would imagine.
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Post by Jw18 on Mar 23, 2007 19:00:23 GMT -5
I found these sets at Target today. They should be in all stores soon, I would imagine. me too
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Post by turbomagnus on Mar 23, 2007 19:41:39 GMT -5
*Nods*
Haven't seen the Spidey-set yet, but it WOULD explain why nearly everywhere seems to be discounting the Intergalactic Showdown sets down like crazy...
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Post by Joe Manzo on Mar 23, 2007 20:39:14 GMT -5
I took a serious look at that this morning and from what I can tell it is a much lighter tan than even the second round of gold-based figures so I'd say he isn't gold-based but just thematically colored. A very nice thing about his base, though, is that rather than having the SVT-style "impossible to tell apart gold or white" it is black or white like the first batch of gold-basers. It actually kind of makes me sad. Base colors used to mean stuff. Chrome means they're harder to find, silver means they're tournament, gold means they're promo/limited edition. With Sandman and Wampa we now have figures who's bases are different colors "just because". I understand wanting to have a theme but I preferred when the colors meant something. Anyways, my video is done but it'll take a bit to process. The link is below... Spider-Man Attacktix MegaThe base colors are no big deals on Megas, because they aren't tournament legal anyway... I mean the trophy figs and exclusives only have base colors FOR tournament rules... Since Megas will never see a "true tournament" scenario (should one ever exist outside of SDCC) then it doesn't matter what color they make them to me
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Post by grievous on Mar 23, 2007 20:42:25 GMT -5
True, but there never has been an "official" ruling on Gold figures anyways. As far as I know they're all fan-made tourney rules. Also, chromes don't effect tournament play but they still mean something since they're harder to get. With the Wampa and Sandman they're different just to be different rather than having any source of meaning.
It's more of a personal thing, I guess. I like things decently tidy and to have some sort of meaning. These new colors on Megas really lack that and I'm not a fan of it.
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Post by greyelephant on Mar 24, 2007 8:39:02 GMT -5
Personally I believe you should be able to spin Spidey around his pole to attack at a 360 degree spin. 1. Why can't you? Rules don't contend against it. 2. Why would they make him to where he could spin completely around if he wasn't supposed to? 3. With only a movement of 6, if you aren't able to attack with some efficiency, then this mega is not going to see much battle. 4. You are allowed to spin Scorponock and Sentinel's arms completely around. According to what you guys are arguing, then you should only be able to spin the two mentioned arms around 180 degrees. 5. He is a mega anyways. He will never be tournament worthy. Not many people ever even use them. So what does it really matter if just this one figure is able to do the above mentioned? Is it really so cruel to let your younger Attacktix enthusiasts have a little bit of an advantage? 6. I don't care a cat's behind if I am playing a youngling and he wants to spin Spidey around 10 times to see if he could "possibly" knock over any extra figures. Why? Well, one reason is because I already have a 4 yr old that would do that anyways. Second is that you must remember that these toys are toys. They can be played by adults and that is all fine and dandy. However, they are made for kids more so. Kids will be the ones who determine if more of these series are made in the future. That guarantees that we as adults will have a better chance at getting the figures that we want. Let them swing Spidey. Let them have fun. In the end you both win. ;D
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Post by Penguin on Mar 24, 2007 14:08:48 GMT -5
I just got the Tournament set today at 2:30, I'll post pics soon. Note Venom's missile is actually a clear deep blue, sort of like a Gusher.(Type of food) Effects: Missiles: Also Sandman's base is actually a tan not gold. --Sorry for the pics I was in a hurry scanning.
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Post by Penguin on Mar 24, 2007 14:24:48 GMT -5
Instruction manual: Sorry for the double post At least the parts that weren't already shown.
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Post by greyelephant on Mar 24, 2007 18:50:39 GMT -5
Why did you take a picture of Optimist Primes bullet? Was it by accident, or for size comparisons?
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Post by YodaBreaker on Mar 24, 2007 20:38:42 GMT -5
Yes, but the rules say "Rotate figure to attack with a swinging kick" not "Push Spider-Man to make him swing around pole" or what not. Rotate, to me, implies that the user actually rotates the figure around the pole manually. Anyways, I decided to do everyone a favor and scan in that section of the instructions so you all can see what I'm talking about... I appreciate being able to see the instructions, and as far as I can tell, the diagram seems to indicate that Spidey should be given a good push, rather than continuously rotated by hand. The reason I say that is that it appears the hand is located in only one place in the diagram. Rather than following the figure around, it seems that it just gives Spidey a push around his pole. However, I'd say that Spidey should be able to move around his pole as many times as the original push lets him, whether that be 180, 360, 720, 546, 497, or 1135.6 degrees
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