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Post by attacktixman on Sept 4, 2008 8:03:22 GMT -5
... 2. Are there any other figures who could potentially be made into a Jawa faction figure, like C3PO? NO - They're not Jawas, they're rebels. They get STOLEN by Jawas, not converted to ...Jawaism? ... With a little imagination , although they (and apparently many other Droids) were scavenged - wandering around in the desert and being scavenged isn't necessarily being "stolen" - more like "hey, look what I found" , C-3PO and R2 (had restraining bolts put on them)? Point is they were under the Jawas control. I'm thinking use your "this faction" or "that faction" technique. Besides, If Hasbro can make Lando Calrissian a Bounty Hunter, I don't have much of a problem making Rebel Droids part time Jawas for expanded game purposes.
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Post by Radar on Sept 4, 2008 18:56:20 GMT -5
Let's recap. 1. No. 2. Any Droid, even droid army. Battle droid, C-3PO, Medic Droid, R2-D2, Destroyer Droid, or other kinds of droids. (...While I'm talking about R2-D2, I would like to mention that R2-KT is an Imperial Astromech droid we should consider later.) 3. OK, not General Grievous, but any other droid should be fine. 4. I think it is important that we try to differentiate the figures with names separate from the Hasbro given ones. If people do decide to make labels, it should make the game a little more fun too. 5. I'm still hoping Tuskins and Jawas will be separate classes. I thought the point of the cmittee was to make each faction strong enough to stand on its' own. 6. ...No.
Before I put my 2 cents in about modifications to figures I just want to say, I love all the titles people have chosen for the figures, and i wonder if after we choose the abilities and stats of each figure if we should vote on names later? Also, I think we should be open to using an individual sculpt for more than one mod. I see no reason why a "Jawa Warlord" could not become both a "Jawa Crew Chief" and a "Sandcrawler Driver" or other mod figures.
Jawa/SW3-10/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Recruit Jawa 15% 4/26 Het Nkik/SW3-10/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Rally any 2 defeated Droids or Droid Army 15% 4/26
Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Jawa Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Sacrifice Jawa 54% 14/26 Jawa Droid Technician (the one with a protocol droids foot)/SW3-24/Jawa Specialist/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Sacrifice any droid or Droid Army 54% 14/26
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Post by greyelephant on Sept 6, 2008 9:38:03 GMT -5
Sorry that I've not been real attentive to what's going on. I've been a little distracted around the house. Some projects going on to try to finish before winter comes. Alrighty gentlemen. We've essentially agreed to try and branch the Jawas to not only effect other factions, but also to possibly work with Tuskens as well. All we need to do is start taking these ideas and polishing them off. Here is everybody's ideas on how they would like to change the Jawa and Jawa Warlord. Pick a couple of each that you like and we can discuss how we can make any other necessary changes to them. Jawa/SW3-10/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Recruit Jawa 15% 4/26 |
1. Jawa/SW3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 4/Special -Rally Jawa X2 15% 4/26 Effect-SWARM- At the beginning of your turn if you have 2 or less Jawas (unit not faction) on your squad you automatically may bring 1 in from your backups. 2. Jawa/SW3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Refurbish (bring in a figure from your opponent's defeated pile) 15% 4/26 3. Jawa/JA3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Rally Jawa or Tusken X2 15% 4/26 4. Jawa Junkmaster/JA3-XX/Specialist/20 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special - Rally Jawa X 2 15% 4/26 /Effect- "Scavenge" - If you have another Jawa in play, as an attack you may take control of an opponent's figure Jawa Junkmaster is touching, then remove him from the game. 5. Jawa Mechanic/JA3-XX/Captain or Warrior/20 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 4/Special - "Rally all Effect Droids" - 15% 4/26 6. Jawa/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Capture Droid Army 15% 4/26 7. Jawa/SW3-10/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Recruit Jawa 15% 4/26 Het Nkik/SW3-10/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Rally any 2 defeated Droids or Droid Army 15% 4/26 Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Jawa Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Sacrifice Jawa 54% 14/26 |
1. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54% 2. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 8/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54% Effect-SWARM- At the begining of your turn if you have less than 5 Jawas (faction) on your squad you automatically may bring 1 in from your backups. 3. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 6/Special-Shootback all Troopers Figures 54% 4. Jawa Warlord/JA3-24/Jawa/ Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 6 or 8 if he is the last Jawa in play /Special-Sacrifice Jawa 54% 14/26 5. Jawa Crew Chief or Jawa Sandcrawler Chief/JA3-XX/Warrior/20 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 6/Special - Shootback Free attack for one of your Jawas- 54% Effect- If you have Jawa Warlord in play, this figure may attack on your turn without using one of your attack actions 6. Jawa Warlord/Jawa Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Attackback: all Jawa (as in faction) 54% 14/26/ Effect: Captured!: All Droid Army figures captured by your Jawas gain the Jawa faction 7. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Jawa Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Sacrifice Jawa 54% 14/26 Jawa Droid Technician (the one with a protocol droids foot)/SW3-24/Jawa Specialist/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Sacrifice any droid or Droid Army 54% 14/26 Like I said, pick a couple that you like of each. Even if you like 3 of them go ahead and pick them. A.M. is thinking of making 2 small Jawa figures out of SW-10 Jawa. I think that is a good idea seems how we're only dealing with 2 figures here. We can expand upon these buggers so they're a few more of them.
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Post by superflytnt on Sept 6, 2008 16:05:19 GMT -5
Jawa becomes..... 2. Jawa/SW3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Refurbish (bring in a figure from your opponent's defeated pile) 15% 4/26
Jawa Warlord becomes.... 1. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54%
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Post by greyelephant on Sept 8, 2008 14:26:50 GMT -5
Still waiting for several others to respond.
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Post by TheBig HairyTruth IsOutThere on Sept 8, 2008 19:36:46 GMT -5
Jawa 2. Jawa/SW3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Refurbish (bring in a figure from your opponent's defeated pile) 15% 4/26
3. Jawa/JA3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Rally Jawa or Tusken X2 15% 4/26
6. Jawa/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Capture Droid Army 15% 4/26
Warlord 2. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 8/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54% Effect-SWARM- At the begining of your turn if you have less than 5 Jawas (faction) on your squad you automatically may bring 1 in from your backups.
6. Jawa Warlord/Jawa Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Attackback: all Jawa (as in faction) 54% 14/26/ Effect: Captured!: All Droid Army figures captured by your Jawas gain the Jawa faction
I think that we should give all effect droids the jawa faction in addition to their original faction. That way the rally x2 jawa will automatically apply to effect droids.
I think that the effect of a captured droid army figure having the jawa faction should be on the trooper who does the capturing, not on the Warlord.
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Post by Radar on Sept 9, 2008 1:51:02 GMT -5
Jawa 1,5,7
Jawa Warlord 1,2,5,7
I've got no problem designing/voting on R2-Q5, R2-D2, Medic Droid, and C-3PO as Jawas if that is what people would like to do. It might be a good opportunity to help round out the faction a little more.
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Post by superflytnt on Sept 9, 2008 8:38:47 GMT -5
I don't think we should put the droids on the Jawa faction - it makes no sense to me that droids that work for the republic/rebellion in all of the movies should be dual-classed with Jawas simply to help the crappy Jawa cause. Instead let's just make a single Jawa figure from the Jawa Warlord as AttacktixMan suggested: Junkmaster or Mechanic that empowers the effect droids, keeping it canonical yet giving you what you desire.
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Post by Radar on Sept 9, 2008 11:28:56 GMT -5
Well, the Jawas have a tendency to put restraining bolts on the droids (A New Hope), making the droids work for them or whoever they sell them to. It's no different than the Imperials having astromech droids.
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Post by Yaggleberry Finn on Sept 9, 2008 12:28:53 GMT -5
Sorry I haven't chimed in here, I don't really have much of an opinion on this faction.
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Post by greyelephant on Sept 9, 2008 13:59:48 GMT -5
I could see both sides of the argument. I do however like the idea of making a second Jawa from the Jawa or Jawa Warlord instead. Posted by Yaggleberry Finn on Today at 1:28pm Sorry I haven't chimed in here, I don't really have much of an opinion on this faction. |
Thanks for letting me know. Give us whatever input you can. Here's my votes. Jawa 1. Jawa/SW3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 4/Special -Rally Jawa X2 15% 4/26 Effect-SWARM- At the beginning of your turn if you have 2 or less Jawas (unit not faction) on your squad you automatically may bring 1 in from your backups. 3. Jawa/JA3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Rally Jawa or Tusken X2 15% 4/26 Jawa Warlord 1. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54% 2. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 8/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54% Effect-SWARM- At the begining of your turn if you have less than 5 Jawas (faction) on your squad you automatically may bring 1 in from your backups. 3. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 6/Special-Shootback all Troopers Figures 54% 5. Jawa Crew Chief or Jawa Sandcrawler Chief/JA3-XX/Warrior/20 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 6/Special - Shootback Free attack for one of your Jawas- 54% Effect- If you have Jawa Warlord in play, this figure may attack on your turn without using one of your attack actions 6. Jawa Warlord/Jawa Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Attackback: all Jawa (as in faction) 54% 14/26/ Effect: Captured!: All Droid Army figures captured by your Jawas gain the Jawa faction (I would like him to be the second Jawa instead of a Jawa Warlord)
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Post by attacktixman on Sept 10, 2008 1:38:43 GMT -5
Jawa: 1,5,7
Jawa Warlord: 2,5,6,7
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Post by TheBig HairyTruth IsOutThere on Sept 10, 2008 15:54:57 GMT -5
Let's recap. 1. No. 2. Any Droid, even droid army. Battle droid, C-3PO, Medic Droid, R2-D2, Destroyer Droid, or other kinds of droids. (...While I'm talking about R2-D2, I would like to mention that R2-KT is an Imperial Astromech droid we should consider later.) 3. OK, not General Grievous, but any other droid should be fine. 4. I think it is important that we try to differentiate the figures with names separate from the Hasbro given ones. If people do decide to make labels, it should make the game a little more fun too. 5. I'm still hoping Tuskins and Jawas will be separate classes. I thought the point of the cmittee was to make each faction strong enough to stand on its' own. 6. ...No. Before I put my 2 cents in about modifications to figures I just want to say, I love all the titles people have chosen for the figures, and i wonder if after we choose the abilities and stats of each figure if we should vote on names later? Also, I think we should be open to using an individual sculpt for more than one mod. I see no reason why a "Jawa Warlord" could not become both a "Jawa Crew Chief" and a "Sandcrawler Driver" or other mod figures. I just have to say that I agree with all of the above.
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Post by greyelephant on Sept 10, 2008 16:56:10 GMT -5
Alrighty, I think we've waited long enough for everyone to respond. Let's move on.
Here's the specials that were shown the most love. Let's look over these and enhance them.
We were pretty much all over the place when it came to the Jawa. That's fine to me because I really think making 2 separate Jawa figures would be a good idea. So what I would like you to do is look over the following figures and come up with what TWO you think would work best. Give an explanation as to why you chose what you did as well.
Jawa
1. Jawa/SW3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 4/Special -Rally Jawa X2 15% 4/26 Effect-SWARM- At the beginning of your turn if you have 2 or less Jawas (unit not faction) on your squad you automatically may bring 1 in from your backups.
2. Jawa/SW3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Refurbish (bring in a figure from your opponent's defeated pile) 15% 4/26
3. Jawa/JA3-10/Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special -Rally Jawa or Tusken X2 15% 4/26
4. Jawa Junkmaster/JA3-XX/Specialist/20 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 6/Special - Rally Jawa X 2 15% 4/26 /Effect- "Scavenge" - If you have another Jawa in play, as an attack you may take control of an opponent's figure Jawa Junkmaster is touching, then remove him from the game.
5. Jawa Mechanic/JA3-XX/Captain or Warrior/20 points/Shoot small missile/small base/movement 4/Special - "Rally all Effect Droids" - 15% 4/26
7. Het Nkik/SW3-10/Jawa Trooper/10 points/Shoot small missile/Small base/Movement 4/Special-Rally any 2 defeated Droids or Droid Army 15% 4/26
Now with the Jawa Warlord we were a bit more decisive. I took the following 4 chosen ones and figured we'd work on these. Number 7 did get 2 votes so if you wish to plead for this one to be part of the voting, then by all means do so. Otherwise I figured we'd just go over all the ones that got 3 or more votes. Try to only pick ONE of these and once again go ahead and explain your reasoning.
Jawa Warlord
1. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54%
2. Jawa Warlord/SW3-24/Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 8/Special-Shootback all Jawas (faction not unit) 54% Effect-SWARM- At the begining of your turn if you have less than 5 Jawas (faction) on your squad you automatically may bring 1 in from your backups.
5. Jawa Crew Chief or Jawa Sandcrawler Chief/JA3-XX/Warrior/20 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 6/Special - Shootback Free attack for one of your Jawas- 54% Effect- If you have Jawa Warlord in play, this figure may attack on your turn without using one of your attack actions
6. Jawa Warlord/Jawa Leader/30 points/Shoot large missile/Medium base/Movement 4/Special-Attackback: all Jawa (as in faction) 54% 14/26/ Effect: Captured!: All Droid Army figures captured by your Jawas gain the Jawa faction
Radar mentioned that we could possibly rename these after were done making specials and such. I like this idea as well. So don't worry too much about the name as much as the special at this point and we'll discuss it later.
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Post by Yaggleberry Finn on Sept 10, 2008 23:01:35 GMT -5
Jawa - 1, because I think swarm is a fun idea and works thematically with the jawas as a whole. I also like 3, as it the low ratio rally more powerful.
7 isn't bad, but there's just no reason to play these guys if you have enough Droid Army figures. 5 seems limited since there are only a handful of effects droids to begin with. 2 and 4 give jawas too much power over figures that probably aren't droids in any way, shape or form. Might be fun, but doesn't make sense to me.
I know I didn't post any ideas, but those are my thoughts on the jawa figure. I'll have to come back for the warlord.
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