greevy
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Post by greevy on Jul 24, 2006 11:35:05 GMT -5
With the announcement of more tournaments coming around this year I decided to start working out a team to play with... though my favorite and best figure (S1 Grievous) sorta blew up. My question is, is he still tournament legal (or atleast legal under current tournament rules) if he no longer rotates, I had a little mishap with the crazy glue when I fixed him. He works perfectly fine beyond that, I just cant turn his hips.
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Post by superflytnt on Jul 24, 2006 13:29:32 GMT -5
With the announcement of more tournaments coming around this year I decided to start working out a team to play with... though my favorite and best figure (S1 Grievous) sorta blew up. My question is, is he still tournament legal (or atleast legal under current tournament rules) if he no longer rotates, I had a little mishap with the crazy glue when I fixed him. He works perfectly fine beyond that, I just cant turn his hips. I'd say yes, as long as his weight has not significantly changed. You may want to try fingernail polish remover on a cotton swab to remove the glue from in between his halves.
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Post by Radar on Jul 25, 2006 2:03:06 GMT -5
While I suppose it is up to the person running the tournament, I believe that the official word from Hasbro is no altered figures are to be allowed into the tournaments.
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Post by superflytnt on Jul 25, 2006 7:37:30 GMT -5
But repaired figures are, are they not? It's not Greev's fault that Attacktix break WAY too easily! Yeah man, like I said, nail polish remover.
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Post by Radar on Jul 25, 2006 13:47:43 GMT -5
I don't know man. To me a broken figure is altered. Also, a repaired figure is altered. At least that is how I see it.
And I've only had about 3 attacktix break on me (out of A LOT). One on purpose to see how it worked and two from excessive play use. There is only so far that spring was intended to go.
When it comes to tournaments, the rules are the rules. Regardless of how a figure breaks. I had a Yellow clone trooper wheel fall apart on me just minutes before the comic con tournament, you just adapt and adjust (with tournament legal figures).
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Post by Draaka on Jul 25, 2006 16:38:28 GMT -5
I personaly would not alow a figure that has been glued in one position like yours, but if you can glue him bakc together with him still being able to move noone will notice, and really its no different to say.....If the white text on the bottom of the base got alightly scratched then technacly thats an "altered model" also the same if (like my leader anakin) had the golden leader symbol on the lfront of his base wear off. Also be ware of nailpolish remover, it may also remove paint. (I dont know what attacktix are painted with but if its acrylic it would be easily removed)
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Post by Radar on Jul 25, 2006 18:30:18 GMT -5
Yeah, there is a grey area in deciding what is altered, but it a figure has been glued, that alters the way it performs. It changes the manner in which the figure spins when fired upon and that will alter game play.
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Post by American Avenger on Jul 27, 2006 7:41:58 GMT -5
I would have to say no because a repaired figure would be an altered figure like a custom one that I made yesterday and they said can't use it. :-(
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greevy
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Post by greevy on Jul 27, 2006 10:22:02 GMT -5
So basicly even if I used nail polish remover to allow him to swivel again he'd still be unplayable in tournament games?
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Post by notacomputer on Jul 27, 2006 10:24:23 GMT -5
I'd say it depends on the tournament, some are more laid back than others.
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Post by Yaggleberry Finn on Jul 27, 2006 11:04:31 GMT -5
I'm hosting a tournament in September, and I would allow that figure to be played. I don't really see how a glued waist provides a strategic advantage. If anything, it's a disadvantage, because you are forced to turn in order to shoot, and this might leave you in a more vulnerable position.
I do think some figures could be glued in such a way that it would be illegal: securing a Jedi Knight's second hand to his saber, for example.
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Post by xanatos on Jul 27, 2006 18:10:26 GMT -5
I think that you should let it play in a tourny, but I agree with Yaggleberry Finn
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Post by warlordofmars on Jul 28, 2006 8:55:38 GMT -5
I suppose it comes down to house rules really, but in the Unofficial Attacktix rules (posted on this forum), there is a section concerning repairing your attacktix if they break in the course of the game (sections 2.2.4 and 4.4). The idea in these rules (and I agree) being if you can fix your attacktix so that it works like it should have (or did) when you first purchased it, then it is playable (in other words a repair does not disqualify a figure, only a repair that makes the figure unlike the manufacturer intended). These have been the guidelines we've always used, though we do allow customs, they can't be unfairly customized (i.e. lead base, golf ball ammo, etc.)
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Post by YodaBreaker on Jul 28, 2006 21:02:07 GMT -5
Yeah, there is a grey area in deciding what is altered, but it a figure has been glued, that alters the way it performs. It changes the manner in which the figure spins when fired upon and that will alter game play. I'd say that repairing a figure in a way that doesn't alter the way it moves in any appreciable way is OK, but altering the way in which a figure moves isn't acceptable. Thus, playing S1 Grievous with a waist that doesn't swivel would be an unacceptable alteration in my book, but if you used nail polish remover to make his waist move again so that he played in all respects like an original figure, I'd call that an acceptable repair.
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