Transformers Attacktix---Old School!!

[thecasualoblivion]

Some are disappointed that Transformers Attacktix are based on the two most recent toylines as opposed to the classic 80's toys, but here's a reimagining of Transformers Attacktix based on the old toys.

First off, we're going to use the current Attacktix as a guideline--two 18 figure random lines(1 Autobot, 1 Decepticon), with two starter sets(1 each), two mega sets(1 each), and a Cybertonian Showdown between the two.

Starting with the Autobots:

Boosters:

Rare
1. Bumblebee--10pt Shooter Trooper
2. Cliffjumper--10pt shooter Trooper with Evade(from his bio, he draws enemy fire)
3. Brawn--10pt wookie fist trooper
4. Aerialbot--10pt shooter trooper, speed 6
5. Sideswipe--20pt, medium base, warrior, shooter
6. Sunstreaker--20pt, medium base, warrior, prodder(missle hand)

Super-Rare
7. Optimus Prime(Truck)--30pt Prodder(the cab rams)
8. Optimus Prime(Robot)--40pt energy blast, 16/26 recover(autobot) power. I know that is kind of crazy, but Optimus Prime should be Darth Vader good.
9. Ironhide--20pt, large base, wookie fist striker, slow, with recover
10. Ratchet--small missile shooter with the best Rally power in the game.
11. Bluestreak--30pt Grievous missile(in the old mythos, Bluestreak had the big guns)
12. Hound(Jeep)--with a small missile on a turret
13. Hound(Robot)--Medium sized missile
14. Tracks(Flying Corvete)--small missile launcher on top
15. Tracks(robot)--40pt energy blast
16. Trailbreaker--Prodder(missile hand)--fairly high % evade(force field)
17. Slag--Dinosaur mode on pedestal, energy blast
18. Sludge--Dinosaur mode on pedestal, the whole dinosaur rotates for a tail swipe striker. Revenge(attacker) power for sludge's earthquake

Starter 4pk
19. Optimus Prime--Striker with Energy Axe--used in in a cartoon episode, and they've put it in some recent Optimus toys.
20. Wheeljack--30pt medium missile with attackback(autobot) x3
21. Jazz--20pt medium missile with a good special power
22. Prowl--Strategist, small missile, 20-30pts, his attack does not count against the regular two.

Mega Set
23. Superion--Mega figure with 4 missiles. Has power of recruit(aerialbots), and recruits a couple of them
24. Mirage--20pt medium missile with Rescue(Mirage turns invisible)


Decepticons

Boosters

Rare

1. Combaticon--10pt Trooper(small Missile)
2. Frenzy--10pt trooper(small missile)
3. Seeker Clone(generic jet like Starscream)--10pt trooper
4. Constructicon--10pt trooper, wookie fist
5. Kickback--20pt, medium base, small missile
6. Blitzwing--20pt striker with sword

Super-Rare
7. Ravage--some sort of striker, not really sure how
8. Thundercracker(Robot)--Energy Blast
9. Thundercracker(jet)--small missile
10. Starscream--Identical to Grand Moff Tarkin
11. Soundwave(tape player)--an effects figure like R2-D2, with Transform!!
12. Soundwave(Robot)--striker wookie hand
13. Megatron--40pt large base. should either have Grievous bolt or the big energy blast, and should sacrifice Decepticons at a high percentage
14. Bombshell--Special power is Capture(Bombshell, Kickback, or Shrapnel) attacking figure. Bombshell shot mind control spores on the show
15. Shrapnel--Energy Blast(lightning bolts)
16. Astrotrain(Train Mode)--Has a prodder attack which rams the front end of the train
17. Astrotrain(Shuttle Mode)--Small Missile, high speed
18. Astrotrain(Robot)--How cool would a triple changer be?

Starter Set

19. Megatron--Striker with flail like Battle Ravage.
20. Skywarp--20pt medium missile with rescue(he teleports)
21. Laserbeak--Small missile launcher with recover(soundwave)
22. Ramjet--Prodder where he rams his head into things

Mega Set
23. Bruticus--lots of missile launchers and recruits combaticons
24. Rumble--with prodder piledriver arm, revenge power(earthquake)

And finally, Cybertronian Showdown

Autobots
1. Grimlock--with a sword of course, large base, and a good power
2. Jetfire--Energy Blast
3. Omega Supreme(the original)--Really freaking big prodder claw

Decepticons
1. Shockwave--Energy Blast all the way
2. Starscream--Using megatron as a gun. Energy Blast/Grievous bolt, and its power is Recruit(Megatron)
3. Devastator--Some sort of striker, twist at the waist and have dangling arm kill everything. Power is recruit(constructicons).


How cool would these be?

[Penguin]

Great ideas, I love the Soundwave idea maybe they could have Soundwave shoot a blast from his chest shaped as a tape, like the dimolisher prototype. Or he could shoot from his gun or shoulder cannon.

[greyelephant]

Good ideas man! I love them. I don't remember all of those characters, but I like the ideas. Didn't the Dino bots combine to make a large Transformer? I don't remember. I do like the Constructicons though. Nice touch.

Me Grimlock, me smash!!

[Penguin]

No the dinobots didin't combine, but the Grimlock and Swoop from energon combined.

[mikec103]

Neat Ideas, maybe we'll see them in an upcomming series of Transformers Attacktix. My only change would be, plane and robot figures for Starscream, not Thundercracker since Starscream was the more popular on the show.

[thecasualoblivion]

mikec103 said:

Neat Ideas, maybe we'll see them in an upcomming series of Transformers Attacktix. My only change would be, plane and robot figures for Starscream, not Thundercracker since Starscream was the more popular on the show.

Starscream's prominence already got him two figures. One by himself, and one holding Megatron as a gun. That's why I gave Thundercracker the transformation feature.

As for making Starscream transform, I thought it better that Starscream have some sort of Revenge power. Something fun like 20/26 white--if white, revenge on one of you're opponent's leader figures, if red revenge on one of your own leader figures. Like Anakin, but able to be worked around by not letting Starscream near any of your leaders.

[lordsecutor]

penguin255 said:

No the dinobots didin't combine, but the Grimlock and Swoop from energon combined.

Actually, though it is true that the Dinobots did not have the power to combine into a larger transformer, there was one episode in which they were given the power (temporarily) to combat the constructicons (or was it the insecticons). I don't remember exactly what gave them this temporary power, but I distinctly remember it happening.

[notpicard]

Hmmm...no combining Dinobots in G1. I think maybe you are recalling that odd giant Autobot that Hound had created as a hologram in the end of the episode "Heavy Metal War."

www.seibertron.com/cartoons/image.php?image_id=5870

It would make sense because there he was, then the Dinobots ended up being the ones to whoop on Devastator right afterward.

The only other combiner I can think of that is Dinobot related would be the Technobots as Computron, as he was created in the episode "Grimlock's New Brain." And his combined mode then embodied the object of the episode's title. So in a sense, Grimlock was somewhat involved with this combiner.

[safarisuz]

lordsecutor said:

Actually, though it is true that the Dinobots did not have the power to combine into a larger transformer, there was one episode in which they were given the power (temporarily) to combat the constructicons (or was it the insecticons). I don't remember exactly what gave them this temporary power, but I distinctly remember it happening.

|sf>In addition to the scene from "Heavy Metal War" that notpicard mentioned, you might be recalling the original Predacons who formed Predaking. Although the Predacons weren't dinosaurs, four of them were four-legged animals with the other being a bird. In other words, both teams had the same number of flying members within it. The Predacons' coloration leaned toward orange and black, while the Dinobots' coloration consisted of grey and a small amount of red.

Both the Predacons and the Dinobots appeared together in the episode "Call of the Primitives."

Anyway, getting back to the topic at hand, I like many of the suggestions on the list. However, when it comes to Troopers, I try to think of 'horde characters,' because the packs tend to have quite a few of them. Therefore, on the Decepticon side, I'd nominate Reflector. In the first season episodes, animators occasionally used him as a horde of expendable troops.

I'd put Reflector in place of the suggested Blitzwing, since Blitzwing was a triple changer and he wasn't exactly weak.

[OptimusPrime]

Im not a big transformers buff but are the transformers attacktix the ones from the 80's or the ones from now.??

[darkknightmare]

They're from the most recent series over here, which is Cybertron.

[safarisuz]

optimusprime said:

Im not a big transformers buff but are the transformers attacktix the ones from the 80's or the ones from now.??

|sf>This thread is "If they were the ones from the 80's, which ones would you pick to have in the set?"

[boshek]

I would really love to see some TF Attacktix based off the Alternators!

[safarisuz]

|sf>I've been giving this a little more thought. First of all, I'd rather assume that the line keeps "both factions as one set of 24-25 figures." Secondly, I think that Hasbro would best tempt G1 TF fans into getting into Attacktix if they kept this idea of "keep down the number of Transformation figures" and instead focused upon offering a wide number of different characters. With that in mind, here's my attempt at a theoretical TF list for a G1 wave.

"Rare"

Autobots
1. Camshaft (Trooper)
2. Downshift (Trooper)
3. Overdrive (Trooper)

The advantage of this is that no one cares about those three characters since they weren't on the cartoon, making them an excellent source for Troopers. Another option would be to replace two of them with Topspin and Twin Twist and have Bumblebee as a Warrior for number three.

Decepticons
4. tape Drone (Trooper or Warrior, depending on number 3 above)
5. Reflector (Trooper)
6. Kremzeek (Trooper)

The tape drone is a bicycle-like vehicle which showed up in a single episode and has never had a toy. I already explained my reasoning behind Reflector within this thread. Kremzeek (although not a robot) is a very well-known energy character to never have a toy. If Hasbro made Kremzeek, that character alone would be enough to tempt some people into giving Attacktix a try. Again, my rule of thumb is "do as little harm as possible when choosing Troopers."

"Super Rare"

Autobots

7. Powerglide (Warrior)--revenge against air-based attacker (like Yoda, but only works if the attacker has a flying mode)
8. Ironhide (Warrior)--call any Trooper
9. Inferno (Warrior)--take any 2 of Kremzeek from play
10. Grimlock (Captain)
11. Optimus Prime (Leader)--transform into truck
12. Elita One (Specialist)--recover Optimus Prime

Decepticons

13. tape Rumble (Warrior)--revenge against ground-based attacker (like Yoda, but only works if the attacker has a land-based mode)
14. Soundwave (Specialist)--call any one tape
15. Shockwave (Captain)--call any 2 of Kremzeek
16. Starscream (Captain)
17. Megatron (Leader)--transform into gun
18. Nightbird (Specialist)--recover Megatron

I'm trying for a balance, ala wave 1. One secret power generally is the mirror for another secret power in the other faction. That way one faction doesn't overpower the other. For Grimlock, he'd be a striker with his red sword. Rumble would also be a striker with his giant piledriver arms. Likely, Elita One and Nightbird would round out the other strikers.

Although Nightbird doesn't have that power in the cartoon, I want her to be in an Attacktix set and she's never had a figure. She has so many weapons that she'd be perfect for this game.

Starter 4-pack
19. Optimus Prime (Leader)--transform
20. Megatron (Leader)--transform
21. Mirage (Warrior)
22. Thundercracker (Warrior)

Optimus Prime would be base mode--ie. the classic trailer with the back open to reveal his blue base shooter. The side panels would be half-way down, which would allow some opportunity for missiles to hit the side. I'm not an OP fan, but that would rock.

I'm not sure whether I'd have a figure w/ Starscream holding Megatron for the transformed version or just a giant gun on the base. The trouble with having a figure with Starscream holding the gun would be it might give the OP trailer mold an unfair advantage.

Mega set

23. Devastator (Mega)
24. Brawn (Warrior)

Devastator would be claw-based. Brawn would be a striker. Besides, who else but Brawn would be gutsy enough to fight Devastator single-handedly?

[capnfalcon222]

They'd have to make 5 versions of ironhide. he gets a new gadget in every episode of the G1 cartoon! the good ol' autobot swiss army knife...