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Post by YodaBreaker on Sept 23, 2007 23:10:00 GMT -5
... Now, if Vader's lightsaber hand were amputated by figure breakage... Is it bad that I read the entire post and all that I got out of it were a few giggles at YB's seemingly unintentional ROTJ reference? Well, not ALL, but you get my meaning... Actually, the reference to RotJ was completely intentional. In addition to referencing Joe's post (as I've heard him speak of this caped cruVader before ), I have an S4 Vader that I like to call my "RotJ Vader", precisely because his saber hand has become dislodged from his arm: I've been debating as to whether I should repair it or leave it as-is, with the hand ready to be detached if it's struck hard enough. I think that now he's been captured on digi-film, I'll probably put him back together again. Now, the other strikers I've destroyed that were also in the pic from which I cropped Vader may be less amenable to reconstruction... At any rate, it's a figure like this whose cape I'd be willing to consider a valid attack surface if it were impossible to re-attach his hand or to substitute another copy of the figure. And no worries about the same idea, grievous. Your wording was much more elegant than mine.
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Post by AWOL on Sept 24, 2007 11:03:11 GMT -5
Posted by webhead817 on Sept 10, 2007, 1:52pm Off the top of my head I would allow this...after all, the defeat of the figure resulted from the attacking action of the Spider-Man figure...which is the general criteria for a successful attack. (After all, we allow you to strike an opponents gun and have that shoot into someone else entirely...) |
Posted by webhead817 on Sept 10, 2007, 9:04pm I'd refer everyone to the Quick Start Guide for the Transformers set...Scorponok is shown to have a Special Attack...there is no indication that anyone with a free moving arm can use the same sort of attack.
I'm playing around with this now...I'm having a hard time hooking his hands under anyone, and the web ball gets in the way as well... |
Posted by webhead817 on Sept 10, 2007, 10:15pm I think you are missing my point.
Almost all figures have a limb or two that moves, but is not part of their attack in some way...most shooters move at the shoulder for example. However, only Scorponok (among the standard sized figs) is explicitly allowed by the rules to have his shoulder joint physically manipulated to attack figures directly, and only the one shoulder with the "scoop" arm.
In virtually every other figure with an attack in the game, you rely only on the spring loaded weapon for the attack itself. Forget the distinction between strikers and launchers and focus on the spring idea for a moment...the spring is causing some part of the figure to move, and the release of the spring energy results in the attack in some way.
Separately...I don't know that we've ever ruled that you couldn't use a "hammer fist" character like Thing as an uppercutter instead...the arm can be adjusted to multiple positions...I don't see a reason why one position should be illegal, but the next "click" over would be legal to use... |
I think you guys are trying to over think this situation. Webhead has clearly stated in the above 3 posts his feelings on this. Come Tix Con time you better be prepared that this is a legitimate move. I for one agree. Personally, I don't care how you use your figures attack mechanism to attack my figures as long as you are using your figures basic mechanism. For instance, I see nothing wrong with using Vaders cape to attack. Why? Simply because you are using the BASIC attack mechanism in his attack. The lightsaber is not the mechanism. The cape is not the mechanism. Twisting his waist IS his mechanism. I have done exactly what Mal did with my Chief Chripa. None at my house ever called it illegal. We understand the basics of the mechanisms and leave it at that. Now, if you wish to talk about flinging figures into one another is constituted illegal? If someone comes crashing into you at 100 mph let's see you get back up and shake it off. Flinging is the same deal. You are using a figure to throw into another. This in real life would lead to some form of damage, so why would we not feel the same when it comes to Attacktix? Ah ha! A proponent of my Fire Mechanism Theory (earlier mentioned on this thread)! That's exactly what I decided is legal - any attack that was successfully made using the basic firing mechanism of a figure. That resolves everything, encourages creativity, and avoids that whole gray area of defining which surface on a figure would do the most damage. That's my "unofficial" conclusion and will be adopted into my house rules.
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Post by attacktixman on Sept 24, 2007 12:09:58 GMT -5
I go with AWOL's attack mechanism, not really the attack surface.
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Post by greyelephant on Sept 25, 2007 16:58:08 GMT -5
Don't fee bad Y.B., I also have a few ROTJ Vaders.
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