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Post by grievous on Dec 23, 2006 18:03:48 GMT -5
Okay, I am now getting the Ghost Rider starter set, period, end of question., simply because of The Hidden. Blackheart's 61% chance of recovering rocks and Abigor now moves from "eh" 20 point Trooper to amazing backup figure due to his 69% Attackback chance.
A little less excited about the Ghost Rider figures. Striker Rider only has a 50% chance of Vengeance while Western has a slightly better 53%.
Overall, I'm guessing they made The Hidden with very, very high percentage powers simply because there are only three figures and there high power probabilities makes them a much more usable team than first appearence..
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Dec 23, 2006 18:08:19 GMT -5
50% Vengence(attacker) is insane on a 20pt striker with a weapon as long as Kit Fisto's. Think about Yoda at 50% for 20pts with an incredible strike. That's what Ghost Rider is.
The percentage on Western Ghost Rider is 38%, but it doesn't automatically target the attacking figure(kills Warriors), and its a REALLY good sculpt. Again, for a 20pt medium Launcher.
These are 20pt figures who's powers don't depend on faction. I think they're both incredible.
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Post by grievous on Dec 23, 2006 19:05:27 GMT -5
50% Vengence(attacker) is insane on a 20pt striker with a weapon as long as Kit Fisto's. Think about Yoda at 50% for 20pts with an incredible strike. That's what Ghost Rider is. The percentage on Western Ghost Rider is 38%, but it doesn't automatically target the attacking figure(kills Warriors), and its a REALLY good sculpt. Again, for a 20pt medium Launcher. These are 20pt figures who's powers don't depend on faction. I think they're both incredible. Doh! For some reason I read Western Ghost Rider as having 14/26. I apologize for my debacle. Also, you make a very good point about the Ghost Rider figures themselves. While the Western version isn't particularly appealing, I can see your point on the "Classic" version. Still, considering I'm planning on getting 6 boosters and 1 starter with my Christmas cash, it looks like the GR Starter is what I'll be getting. However, I'd like to see the percentages on the Sabretooth/Goblin/Wolverine/Spidey set before I really decide. Thanks for the percentage, casualoblivion, it's been very helpful.
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Dec 23, 2006 19:12:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the percentage, casualoblivion, it's been very helpful. Thats why I started this thread. Percentages are always helpful. You really can't judge any of these figures until the percentages are known.
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Dec 23, 2006 20:45:44 GMT -5
However, I'd like to see the percentages on the Sabretooth/Goblin/Wolverine/Spidey set before I really decide. Thanks for the percentage, casualoblivion, it's been very helpful. Here are the percentages and some comments on the Sabertooth/Goblin/Woverine/Spidey set I just picked up from Toys R Us. I went to the other one in the area just now and they had them. Sabertooth---Recover(Leader) at 14/26. A 14/26 recovering 20pt striker looks incredible on the surface, and in my games it is. The thing is that Sabertooth's strike works differently than other strikers. The torso on the figure does not twist, you just pull the arm(and only the arm) back and let it go. Its really easy to use, but I would be shocked if you could kill multiple figures with Sabertooth unless they were next to each other. If multiple kills matter to you, Sabertooth is a letdown. Me, I don't like doing multiple kills so me likes. That being said this is a thick and heavy sculpt, and I could see this figure being a pain to shoot down. Wolverine--Attackback(Leader) at 18/26. Nice power and percentage, but I'm still iffy on this being 30pts. His strike is really hard to control. I've only opened one of my sets, and that striking arm is really loose and tends to not stay level. Its also really difficult to not let go of the claw prematurely. Spider Man(web blast)--Stun(enemy Leaders) at 14/26. Hovers just above 50% and only effects figures your opponent may or may not have. Its a 30pt Hammerhead with six speed and a large base though. Green Goblin--Capture Attacker(Warrior) at 10/26. Same as Boba Fett. I haven't test fired it yet, but the Pumpkin Bomb seems a lot more substantial than I expected. I'd say its easily heavier than a medium missile, though I'm curious to see how it handles at long range. All in all I'd recommend the Ghost Rider set if you're only getting one.
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Dec 28, 2006 22:57:51 GMT -5
I've added a summary to the first post.
we still need: Elektra Captain America Pole Swining Spider Man Daredevil Magneto Mystique Hulk Ghost Rider on Motorcycle Wallow
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Post by YodaBreaker on Dec 29, 2006 22:20:36 GMT -5
From my recent trade with dvandom, I've found that:
Elektra - Attackback (Daredevil): 13/26 (50%) Captain America - Last Stand: 14/26 (54%)
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Post by Yaggleberry Finn on Dec 29, 2006 23:07:24 GMT -5
I was able to snag 4 boosters today, I can help out with two more:
Mystique - Swap - 6/26 (23%) Daredevil - Evade (MK) - 8/26 (31%)
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Dec 30, 2006 0:06:11 GMT -5
Thank You.
The list is now updated. The only ones we still need are:
Hulk Pole Swining Spider Man Magneto Wallow Motorcycle Riding Ghost Rider
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Post by Zincdust on Dec 30, 2006 2:43:01 GMT -5
I can add Pole-Swingin' Spider-Man and Magento:
#10: Pole-Swingin' Spider-Man - Rescue (any) - 12/26 = 46% #13: Magneto - Sacrifice (Brotherhood) - 16/26 = 61%
Also, I noticed that you had question marks on the effects for the Spider-Man Origins starter on your master list... The Goblin and Doc Ock are definitely for the Sinister Syndicate, and the Attackback for Spidey effects Spider-Man figs. Hope all this info helps!
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Dec 30, 2006 8:20:06 GMT -5
Almost finished. All we still need is The Hulk and the Ghost Rider Mega Set, which hasn't even been sighted yet.
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Post by greyelephant on Dec 30, 2006 9:12:00 GMT -5
Hulk Recover if Avenger in Play 12/26 46%
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Dec 30, 2006 9:13:49 GMT -5
Thank you greyelephant. We now have the stats of every figure we've seen in stores so far.
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Post by grizz on Jan 2, 2007 17:37:45 GMT -5
Well, thanks to the Big Bad Toy Store box that just arrived here (Yippee!!!!), we have the Ghost Rider Mega and Wallow. Here are their stats: Ghost Rider Mega: Recruit-Ghost Rider; 6/26: 23% Wallow: Attackback-Hidden; 12/26: 46% Bottom of Wallow's base is identical to Abigor's. We just played a game and it was awesome! Ghost Rider Mega's strike is strong, but a little difficult to use. The angle is a bit awkward and his arm moves around a lot.
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Jan 2, 2007 19:11:27 GMT -5
What is the freaking point of Wallow?!?!?
Abigor is the exact same figure in almost all aspects, but with a special rate of 18/26 69% instead of Wallow's 12/26 46% for the exact same Attackback(Hidden).
That is really weird.
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