grizz
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Post by grizz on Oct 13, 2006 19:17:53 GMT -5
If it's not too late I would be interested in the jedi team.
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Oct 13, 2006 19:23:30 GMT -5
If it's not too late I would be interested in the jedi team. There is room, I'll be accepting people until I declare the end of round 1. I think you mean the Jedi Knight team, so I'll give you them.
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Post by grizz on Oct 13, 2006 22:53:58 GMT -5
Cool it will be neat to see how they hold up.
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Oct 14, 2006 17:19:31 GMT -5
And now, match #2!
I will say before I begin that this one was quite a bit closer than the first matchup where Landmine clearly beat Scorponok. That being said, lets get down to it:
Team Super Optimus Prime--hansolo333
Gold Super Optimus Prime x1 Super Optimus Prime Truck x1 Skyblast Jet x2 Omnicon x2 Minicon x1 S4 Starter Han Solo x1 Kit Fisto x1 Jedi Knight x2
Backups--Super Optimus Prime(black based)x1 Skyblast Robot Mode x2
--VS--
Team Battle Ravage--notpicard
Battle Ravage x5 S4 Starter Chewbacca x2 Starscream x1 S4 Greedo x3
My concept for the Super Optimus Prime team was to have Super Optimus Prime be the main gunner for the team, surround him with some Autobot support, being some troopers and two transforming Skyblasts. I added some Jedi strikers to protect Super Optimus prime from strikers, and with three warriors on the table and two in reserve, Han Solo filled things out.
As for Team Battle Ravage, it has five Battle Ravages for its main offense, with six medium launchers for firepower. A full eight figures in this team can Rally a Battle Ravage, and the theme of this team is just the endless stream of Battle Ravages. I could have put more Starscreams and Chewbaccas, but I wanted the extra manpower and shooting of the three Greedos, who support each other with their special just fine.
Match 1, Autobots go first, 11 figures per side
Team Optimus turn 1: I advance the truck 8 tix and form a formation around it with Kit Fisto and the two Jedi Knights. I advance all other figures, with Gold Optimus in the center. I fire Super Optimus at a Battle Ravage and just barely hit and fail to kill it, and I miss a Greedo with Han Solo.
Team Ravage turn 1: I form two formations, with three Battle Ravages on the left advancing about 6-7 tix, and two Battle Ravages with Starscream behind them on the right, and I advance them just a bit to try to keep them out of the range of Kit Fisto. I then advance the expendible Greedos and hide the Chewbaccas behind other figures. I fire one Greedo at a Jet Skyblast and miss entirely. I fire another Greedo at the Minicon, who takes the hit like the tough little guy he is without falling.
End of turn 1, Team Optimus 11 figures, Team Ravage 11 figures
Team Optimus turn 2: I advance Kit Fisto on the formation and he gets there! I also advance the truck as far forward as it can go, and also advance Han Solo, Gold Optimus, an Omnicon, and a Jet Skyblast. I make a formation in the back out of Skyblast, the Minicon, an Omnicon, and a Jedi Knight, and I hide the other Jedi Knight behind Gold Optimus and Skyblast. Kit Fisto slams the formation, but only kills one Battle Ravage, who though it doesn't matter is black. This gives the truck a clear shot at the other Battle Ravage, and I kill it, though this time its white. The first Battle Ravage comes back.
Team Ravage turn 2: I advance two Battle Ravages against gold Optimus and Kit Fisto. I also advance Starscream, the Chewbacca on the right and the Greedos. I replace the Battle Ravage in the left formation with a Chewbacca. I attack with my two Battle Ravages against Gold Optimus and Kit Fisto. Gold Optimus falls and is black, and Kit Fisto also dies and is black as well. Tough break for Team Optimus.
End of turn 2: Team Optimus 9, Team Ravage 10
Team Optimus turn 3: I move the hidden Jedi Knight against The Battle Ravage that killed Gold Optimus, I advance the Skyblasts and form up Omnicon, Minicon and Jedi Knight. The Jedi Knight kills his Battle Ravage, who comes up black. The truck then takes a point blank shot at another Battle Ravage, who is white and Rallies a dead Battle Ravage back into play.
Team Ravage turn 3: I advance two Greedos(1 against the exposed Jedi Knight), Starscream, Chewbacca, and send a recently revived Battle Ravage at the Truck. Greedo kills the Jedi Knight at point blank range, and the Jedi is black. Battle Ravage swipes the truck next, and the truck is black! No Super Optimus Prime for you, tough break for team Optimus there.
End of turn 3: Team Optimus-7 Team Ravage-9
Team Optimus turn 4: I advance a skyblast up to Starscream, and I flank the formation of two Battle Ravage, Greedo and Chewie with Han Solo. I advance the other Skyblast and the lone Omnicon and leave the formation(Jedi Knight, Omnicon and Minicon) where it is. Han Solo has a good angle on the formation, with a clear shot at a Battle Ravage unprotected at that angle and kills it. Special power is black. The Skyblast then kills Starscream at point blank range, and Starscream is black as well.
Team Ravage turn 4: The entire team advances and disperses. A Battle Ravage kills a Skyblast, who is knocked back a foot but turns up white bringing the robot into play where the jet ended up. Another Battle Ravage kills Han Solo, who thanks to the Jedi and the Skyblast Robot recovers. Could it be a comeback, as the number of figures is now equal?
End of turn 4: Team Optimus-7, Team Ravage 7
Team Optimus turn 5: I advance the Skyblasts, both Robot and Jet, as well as the Han Solo. I also advance the formation a little. Skyblast prods a Battle Ravage who fails to come up white, and Han Solo point blanks another Battle Ravage, who is also black. No more Battle Ravages on the table!
Team Ravage turn 5: I advance the three Greedos and the two Chewbaccas on whatever is closest. Greedo kills Skyblast the robot at point blank range, and the special doesn't matter since I have no reserve jets. Chewbacca then kills his pal Han at point blank range, and Han stays dead.
End of turn 5: Team Optimus-5, Team Ravage-5
Team Optimus turn 6: Its 2 Omnicons, Skyblast Jet, Minicon and Jedi Knight vs. 3 Greedos and 2 Chewbaccas. The Jedi Knight breaks formation and goes after a Greedo. The Jedi Knight kills the Greedo, who gives the Greedo towards the back a Shootback. That Greedo uses that Shootback to avenge his brother against that Jedi Knight at about 12 tix. The Skyblast Jet then shoots another Greedo down at point blank range, and the Greedo in back gets another Shootback, which he uses to kill the Minicon, who is black. This is the turning point in the match, and team Optimus is in trouble.
Team Ravage turn 6: I advance my three remaining figures and shoot down the two Omnicons with a Chewbacca and my remaining Greedo. One is white, but with only Skyblast on the table it doesn't matter at this point.
End of turn 6: Team Optimus-1, Team Ravage-3
Team Optimus turn 7: Skyblast flanks the tripoded Chewbacca closest to him and kills him. Chewie is black, so no Battle Ravage recovery.
Team Ravage turn 7: I advance the Chewbacca and the Greedo towards the Skyblast. Chewie is closer and kills the Skyblast, who is white and brings out the robot where it fell. Greedo is pretty far, and fails to hit the robot.
End of turn 7: Team Optimus-1, Team Ravage-2
Team Optimus turn 8: Skyblast advances on Chewbacca. Skyblast is far enough along the table that a Rallied Battle Ravage will get to him. He kills Chewbacca, who is not white. Whew!
Team Ravage turn 8: Its all up to Greedo, who gets to make a shot at Skyblast, with the spear pointed towards Greedo at 8 tix. Greedo takes Skyblast down. The Greedos win this one for Battle Ravage
Game 1 winner: Team Battle Ravage, with one Greedo remaining.
And now, game 2 with Team Battle Ravage up first:
Team Ravage turn 1: I start by forming up the five Battle Ravages with the Starscream in back. I advance the three Greedos and hide the Chewbaccas behind them. On the Team Optimus starting line, one of the Jedi Knights does not have a lightsaber holding it in place. I fire one Greedo at it and miss high. I fire a second Greedo at it and get it. It is not white.
Team Optimus turn 1: I advance the Skyblasts, Han Solo, the truck, Gold Optimus, and I advance Kit Fisto as far as he can go without being in range of the Battle Ravages. I form up the three troopers, and I hide the Jedi Knightsbehind other figures. I fire Gold Optimus at the head of the formation, and I get a kill. One Battle Ravage dies, and it is uselessly white. The formation is broken and one Battle Ravage now stands alone. I fire a missile from the truck at it. I hit, but Battle Ravage absorbs the hit and does not fall.
End of turn 1: Team Optimus-10, Team Ravage 10
Team Ravage turn 2: I send two Battle Ravages after the truck and Gold Optimus. I advance and disperse the Greedos and Chewbaccas, but form up the remaining two Battle Ravages and the Starscream. The first Ravage kills Gold Optimus, who stands up thanks to being white. The second Ravage kills the truck, who is also white and puts the robot into play a little ways back from that Battle Ravage, being knocked back a bit.
Team Optimus turn 2: I advance Gold Optimus prime, a Skyblast, Han Solo, and move Kit Fisto into the heart of the enemy ranks. I form a screen with the three troopers and the other Skyblast in front of black based Optimus, so no Battle Ravages can reach it. I advance on and kill a Battle Ravage with the remaining Jedi Knight. Its white, and I get a Battle Ravage back. I then take a point blank shot with a Skyblast, and kill another Battle Ravage, who is not white.
End of turn 2: Team Optimus 10, Team Ravage 9
Team Ravage turn 3: Team Optimus as a large positional advantage at this point, so I retreat everything with the exceptions of advancing both Chewbaccas on a suicide run, and advancing the recently Rallied Battle Ravage against Kit Fisto. I kill Kit Fisto, who turns up white this game. I then take a shot at a distance of about 12 tix with a Greedo on the Jedi Knight, who dies. He's white, but there are no Jedi left at this point.
Team Optimus turn 3: Three attacks this turn. I advance all figures in their current positions, including still hiding the second Optimus Prime behind a line of figures. I take a medium range shot with Gold Optimus against a tripoded Chewbacca, killing it. Its white though, so hello Battle Ravage. Han Solo then guns down the Battle Ravage that killed Kit Fisto. Another white, another Battle Ravage. The best shot I have it this point is with Skyblast against the Greedo who shot last turn, and I hit. Greedo isn't white.
End of turn 3: Team Optimus-8 Team Ravage-8
Team Ravage turn 4: The Formation with two Battle Ravages and Starscream moves six tix towards the center and joins with the Rallied ones from last turn. I advance the left Greedo two tix towards the screen of troopers, and the Greedo and Chewbacca on the other side advance towards Han Solo and Skyblast. The two Greedos then take point blank shots. The first kills Han Solo, who is black but there currently aren't any warriors so it doesn't matter. The second kills a Skyblast, who unluckily is black.
Team Optimus turn 4: I move everything forward, but move the hidden Optimus towards the center away from his screen. Gold Optimus Prime gets a nice shot against one Greedo, who is black. My Minicon takes a close range shot at the other, who is white but there's no more Bounty Hunters.
End of turn 4: Team Optimus-6 Team Ravage-6
Team Ravage turn 5: I go all out and advance everything, but hold two of my four Battle Ravages behind. I advance the other two Battle Ravages against the two Optimus Primes, and get them both just outside of lightsaber range. That doesn't matter since Battle Ravage has a little more reach than even the long saber of Kit Fisto. I'm nervous on both strikes, but I kill them both. Black based Optimus dies without having anything to Transform into, but Gold Optimus is again white.
Team Optimus turn 5: I move a few figures into better positions. Gold Optimus avenges himself on his attacker, who is not white this time. I then take a point blank shot with an Omnicon against the Battle Ravage who killed the other Optimus. He dies, but is white, bringing yet another Battle Ravage.
End of turn 5: Team Optimus-5 Team Ravage-5
Team Ravage turn 6: I don't have a Battle Ravage in range of Optimus Prime, so I put the Starscream and a Chewbacca in his way so he has nothing else to shoot, and has no shot on any of the Ravages. I kill the remaining Skyblast with a Battle Ravage, and Skyblast again fails to Transform. That's not good. I then take a shot with Chewbacca against Gold Optimus Prime at about 5-6 tix. I hit Optimus square in the chest between the windows, and he does not fall. The old Super Optimus Prime magic is in effect.
Team Optimus turn 6: Gold Optimus Prime retreats to avoid the Battle Ravages, but I advance the troopers. I get an Omnicon and a Minicon into point blank range of two Battle Ravages. They kill them both, and one comes up white, bringing back yet another Battle Ravage.
End of turn 6: Team Optimus-4 Team Ravage-4
Team Ravage turn 7: I continue to screen Gold Optimus with Starscream and Chewbacca, moving Starscream right up to an Omnicon, and my new Battle Ravage hidden behind them. One of my Battle Ravages kills the Minicon who isn't white, and Starscream takes a point blank head shot killing the Omnicon who isn't white either(not that it matters at this point).
Team Optimus turn 7: Gold Optimus continues his retreat, and I move my remaining Omnicon forward to get a clear shot at the Battle Ravage behind Starscream and Chewbacca. I take a shot with my Omnicon at it and I get it, and its not white. I then fire Gold Optimus at Starscream and get a kill there. Starscream is white, and I get another Battle Ravage back.
End of turn 7: Team Optimus-2 Team Ravage-3
Team Ravage turn 7: I advance Chewbacca on Super Optimus, and move the Battle Ravage that was rallied on turn 5 right up to the Omnicon. I kill that Omnicon, who is white but it doesn't matter at this point. I then take a shot with Chewbacca at the same range as the last one that failed to kill Super Optimus Prime. I hit in the same place, and this time Gold Optimus falls. He is white for the third time, but there are no figures left, so his recover fails. Team Ravage has two Battle Ravages and Chewbacca in play.
Winner of the game and the match: Team Ravage
Some thoughts--Team Optimus had some problems with luck, having four figures with critical special powers with 77% success rates. In the eight deaths of those figures, the specials failed four out of eight times. Team Optimus played both games closer than I expected, as I was expecting Team Ravage to win easily. Team Ravage worked well. Very well. The rallying came up empty in the first game, but the team was saved by the Greedos and their shootbacks. In the second game, I rallied tons of Battle Ravages back into play, and Team Optimus just couldn't kill them all. The Battle Ravages coming back into play on the starting line didn't seem to matter that much.
I still have room for more contestants. Feel free to join in!
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Post by notpicard on Oct 15, 2006 1:49:03 GMT -5
Sweet. I was betting on Battle Ravage's solid abilities that I hadn't realized until the con. I actually lost my first game against a friend tonight who was using two Battle Ravages in her team. They definitely turned the tide for her, coming back four times. They also managed to take down Optimus and a Minicon in one strike. I rarely ever see Battle Ravage get a multiple take down. It turns out that the one Battle Ravage I have isn't so good. The two she has both have stiff right arms while mine flops at the shoulder. It causes him to swing even higher than hers. I definitely need to get more of this guy. I was kind of surprised at how they got taken out in the first game against that team Optimus. The second round seemed a bit more characteristic of them, keeping coming after getting knocked down.
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Oct 15, 2006 10:50:04 GMT -5
Sweet. I was betting on Battle Ravage's solid abilities that I hadn't realized until the con. I actually lost my first game against a friend tonight who was using two Battle Ravages in her team. They definitely turned the tide for her, coming back four times. They also managed to take down Optimus and a Minicon in one strike. I rarely ever see Battle Ravage get a multiple take down. It turns out that the one Battle Ravage I have isn't so good. The two she has both have stiff right arms while mine flops at the shoulder. It causes him to swing even higher than hers. I definitely need to get more of this guy. I was kind of surprised at how they got taken out in the first game against that team Optimus. The second round seemed a bit more characteristic of them, keeping coming after getting knocked down. After this match, I may be of the opinion that Battle Ravage has the most useful Rally in the game, despite its low success rate. First off, it Rallies itself, I can't think off the top of my head how many figures do that. Second, there are effective shooters which also Rally Battle Ravage, namely Chewbacca and Starscream. Third, it is likely the biggest threat on the table. The figure that will destroy everything if its not dealt with. You really can't focus on Starscream and Chewbacca and ignore the Battle Ravages. Recruit and Transform empty your backups fast. In the second game Battle Ravage just kept coming back over and over again. I counted six Rallies during the second match, which meant that there were eleven Battle Ravages to deal with during the course of the match, and there could have even been more since there were two on the table when the match ended. I really don't think there is another figure you can chain Rallies together with like Battle Ravage. **in addition** I checked and S1 Ki-Adi-Mundi and Agen Kolar, as well as S2 starter Mace Windu can rally themselves. All of these have a higher success rate, but they don't have a shooter to support them who can Rally them as well. STILL ROOM FOR MORE PLAYERS!! I may add the two guys I play against in the real world for some more teams, though they aren't members here. I may also join myself, but I will pick last, and I'll probably just pick a team I'd like to see in action, like the Ransack/Crumplezone team.
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