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Post by thecasualoblivion on Aug 24, 2006 15:50:34 GMT -5
There are two questions for Transformers Attacktix that I haven't really seen adequately answered:
1. How exactly does the Transform power work?
Most of us just replace the dead figure with the alternate mode at the point of attack. Someone said in one of my threads that a Hasbro person said that the figure comes into play in the starting area, and the effect worked just like recruit. This really doesn't make sense to me, as if the effect was exactly like recruit, why give it a new name? Also, is the defeated figure now dead? In theory, since the figure Transforms, shouldn't the defeated figure go into your backups instead? The robot modes tend to have low success rates for Transform, so that interpretation wouldn't be game breaking, and would give Transformers some figures that could really stand up to the best of Star Wars.
2. How does Ransack's attack work?
What exactly are you allowed to do with this. Common acceptance right now is that you fire the prodder, then you can turn the prongs afterwards to throw. Even still, we're not really sure on this one. Also, the attack is listed as a prodder/throw. Scorponok is a throwing figure, and you use your own hand to manipulate Scorponok's arm to throw an enemy figure. If Ransack can "Throw", can he do it like Scorponok? Physically, the figure can do it fine, its just the question of is that legal? If it is, do you have to do it instead of firing the prodder, or can you do it afterwards?
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Post by attacktixguy on Aug 24, 2006 15:56:26 GMT -5
1. It says to put them in play from your Back-Ups like the Star Wars figures did so I guess you just put them in the starting area.
2. I have Ransack and I have not thought of throwing people but he works as a jabber because his weapon is long enough.
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Post by safarisuz on Aug 24, 2006 16:16:47 GMT -5
|sf>I haven't played an actual game yet. However, I believe I understand the instruction book's logic.
1. It's called something different from "recruit," because it's the same character changing form. You aren't drawing in a supplimental character. From a video game PoV, the enemy has just killed off your character. The effect acts like a reset button, except your character is in a different mode. You have one character with two bits that represent the character. Therefore, the defeated form has been reset into the second form. Like any other character affected by a special move, he has to start at the beginning line.
Yes, in the cartoon, the Transformer's new mode resumes from the original location, but games don't always follow logic.
2. Maybe the player has the choice to either use him as a prodder or as a thrower during the turn, but you can't use him as both in one attack. I'm not certain myself about that one.
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Post by superflytnt on Aug 24, 2006 23:21:32 GMT -5
You can Jab, then toss if you'd like. That's the way I've been using him. I also have thrown people (twist it with one hand and pressing button with other) and that is EVILLY EFFECTIVE.
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Post by haldu2 on Aug 25, 2006 10:21:42 GMT -5
Super fly you are evil;) I think it was named transform to sound cool, but I think it should be modified to make it better then recruit. I let mine go between both the defeated area and the backups. But you can have one form in play at a time. and it happens where the figure fell like recover. I wish I had a ransack but I don't.
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Post by webhead817 on Aug 25, 2006 14:09:44 GMT -5
1. Transform is a specific form of Recruit, and works the same way. (The alt mode figure is placed in your starting area.)
2. Ransack, you can twist him to adjust the "aim" of the forks, push the button to stab, then twist away as needed.
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Post by Phoenix on Aug 26, 2006 9:25:12 GMT -5
From Hasbro (and added to the transformers FAQ stick thread):
Q: Please explain the use of Ransack's weapon. Can you use it to grab and TWIST the opponent, before a jab? Or do you only twist BEFORE you jab, essentially adjusting the angle of your aim? A: Ransack's attack does have special rules. You may turn and twist his weapon to try and throw your opponent, you may use it as a standard jab, or do both, in either order. (Note: Ransack's attack was actually intended to be a corkscrew, that did not go according to plan.) [HASBRO]
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Post by thecasualoblivion on Aug 26, 2006 14:03:41 GMT -5
From Hasbro (and added to the transformers FAQ stick thread): Q: Please explain the use of Ransack's weapon. Can you use it to grab and TWIST the opponent, before a jab? Or do you only twist BEFORE you jab, essentially adjusting the angle of your aim? A: Ransack's attack does have special rules. You may turn and twist his weapon to try and throw your opponent, you may use it as a standard jab, or do both, in either order. (Note: Ransack's attack was actually intended to be a corkscrew, that did not go according to plan.) [HASBRO] What about using it like Scorponok's arm? Is that what is meant by turn and twist? Or does turn and twist just mean the wheel on the back?
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Post by dvandom on Sept 5, 2006 12:42:35 GMT -5
If you've seen the Cybertron cartoon, you'll know they make heavy use of canned transformation sequences during which the character often moves across huge distances while changing form. Hence, having the new figure enter in the starting area doesn't actually violate the "chrome" of the setting. "Optimus Prime, TRANSFORM!" (whoosh, winjy, whoosh) "Hey, where'd Prime go?" "I'm over here. Animation error." "Curse you, continuity editor!" ---Dave
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Post by predacus on Sept 9, 2006 13:45:12 GMT -5
From Hasbro (and added to the transformers FAQ stick thread): Q: Please explain the use of Ransack's weapon. Can you use it to grab and TWIST the opponent, before a jab? Or do you only twist BEFORE you jab, essentially adjusting the angle of your aim? A: Ransack's attack does have special rules. You may turn and twist his weapon to try and throw your opponent, you may use it as a standard jab, or do both, in either order. (Note: Ransack's attack was actually intended to be a corkscrew, that did not go according to plan.) [HASBRO] What about using it like Scorponok's arm? Is that what is meant by turn and twist? Or does turn and twist just mean the wheel on the back? I think "turn and twist" applies to the knob on the back only. It is pretty lame in comparison to Scorponok, or even the jabbers Skyblast and Landmine.
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Post by malform on Sept 10, 2006 8:56:45 GMT -5
I think "turn and twist" applies to the knob on the back only. It is pretty lame in comparison to Scorponok, or even the jabbers Skyblast and Landmine. It sounds to me like you haven't seen the video.Video provided by grievous.
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Post by predacus on Sept 10, 2006 11:50:26 GMT -5
And grievous also admits in that thread that it's quite a bit more effective on Megas than on normal tournament-legal figures. And I've found Scorponok to be very effective against both, so I like him much better.
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Post by tbread on Jun 26, 2007 5:57:17 GMT -5
in a tournament of transformers games ask a judge for a little twist so that the bot/veh mode goes into backups and that the transformed version goes on the defeat spot...
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Post by LarimusPrime on Jun 26, 2007 15:41:33 GMT -5
Yep, you got it. Just be careful because if you don't get a good spot, you'll mess up the ransack's throw.
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