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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2007 13:23:17 GMT -5
Though the dice rolling is a clever idea, I thought the point of customizing these was to make them into Attacktix, and not just some variation of the game?
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Post by dvandom on Dec 25, 2007 19:48:49 GMT -5
Well, the dice rolling lets you use just any old spare tixbase, so you don't have to open one up and change the ratio of white to black inside if you decide the power needs more or less chance of white. Because, frankly, they're not easy to open without totally destroying 'em.
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Post by Cona Chris on Dec 26, 2007 10:58:22 GMT -5
Though the dice rolling is a clever idea, I thought the point of customizing these was to make them into Attacktix, and not just some variation of the game? Like dvandom said above, without dice, you'd have to have a very specific base (e.g. a medium size base with 46% chance of white) - it'd be hard to everyone to have the exact bases that we come up with as standard for every figure. I was thinking, instead of a 30-sided die which not everyone has, you could use 2 six-sided dice and that should give enough range for possible window=white ratios. Just a thought...
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Post by webhead817 on Dec 26, 2007 11:53:52 GMT -5
Twenty siders are very common among hobby games...and might give you a closer approximation.
I really want to get my hands on some of these to see how well they "work" in terms of attack strength.
However...I'm guessing that many of the figs will make very easy conversions to tix or a variation thereof.
One other thing...I'm thinking of a neat/easy way to use the figs in a game without altering the figs themselves. Has anyone ever played the Pirates game from WizKids? The movement rules for that game are nice and simple...a boat might have a max move/speed of 2L, with L being the long edge of a playing card. And conveniently, the playing card could also have the game stats for the particular fig, in a similar fashion...
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Post by ionicdesign on Dec 26, 2007 12:42:02 GMT -5
This is kind of far out, but maybe an opportunity for Hasbro, to sell replacement/customizing bases, the enhanced point and size base attachments that has been spoken of (where you could snap a medium base on a small based figure, etc), and spare missiles either together or separately. Seems to me some break (the bases and missiles), and more that a couple people like to custom, so there might be a market there. I know I'd certainly like to have missile packs to reconcile eBay purchases that didn't have enough or the right ones. The bases could be sold in a pack with small, medium and large ones. Probably wouldn't happen, but it would take care of the issue of equipping the DC crew.
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Post by dvandom on Dec 26, 2007 13:09:02 GMT -5
Well, I expect the DC game will come with its own movement system, that could probably be adapted.
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Post by YodaBreaker on Dec 26, 2007 13:23:57 GMT -5
I think the idea of standardizing these is great. If nothing else, it'll give people a chance to play with pointing and stat'ing figures. We might end up being more forgiving about Hasbro's job with some of the figures Then again, we'd also have access to the sculpts, and those responsible for generating the stats (like Brett) may or may not have that sort of access when they're doing their jobs. I mean, with "Tourney Set" Venom's squat sculpt, would it have stayed a 20-point figure? 30 sided dice are fairly easy to find. Oddly, despite all his other weird dice, I don't think Zocchi ever made a 26 sider for rolling random letters. Of course, there's arbitrary dice rolling programs available as freeware for PDAs and laptops. I'm not sure how to make a fair 26-sided die. The only ways I could find of doing this would rely on using polygons of different architecture for the faces, which would make the die intrinsically biased toward resting on faces with more surface area than others. Remember that these figures are no longer being released as part of a game; they're just "super action" figures now.
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Post by superflytnt on Dec 26, 2007 14:33:16 GMT -5
This is not that hard of a problem to solve. Simply use bases of figures that are applicable. What's the problem with that? It's not like we have too many problems right now with customizing, so why the big deal with putting new figs on old bases? Look at Jackpunch's work - 99% of his are just action figures with a gun added and popped on a tixbase...(not to simplify the good work, but it is what it is) and I see little difference here.
If, as a group, we want to standardize these things, the person who creates it should post a thread on a figure, get input on powers and speed (and points) and then create it. Anyone wishing to emulate that can then make an identical (or as close as you can) one and that's that.
Where's the need for dice or anything else?
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Post by greyelephant on Dec 26, 2007 19:27:23 GMT -5
I was wondering the same as Superfly. Why not just use bases that we already know the %'s of? Would be lots easier.
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Post by ionicdesign on Dec 26, 2007 20:52:39 GMT -5
I was wondering the same as Superfly. Why not just use bases that we already know the %'s of? Would be lots easier. , which would work well. I think the only issue is people wanting to make them that for whatever reason couldn't get a hold, or want to remove the base that is chosen in the end. Aside from that I think it would work fine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2007 22:30:57 GMT -5
Where's the need for dice or anything else? That's what I thought. Using dice kinda takes away the whole "Tixiness" of the game. Why go so far as to standardize these, then give it up when it comes to the final, IMO vital, details? I can understand the intimidation of trying to rip a base open with minimal damage, but there are other options. As the other guys said, we could just use bases that are already loaded with the desired percentage.
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Post by attacktixman on Dec 27, 2007 14:39:04 GMT -5
I don't think we need dice, nice idea, but doesn't seem Tix to me.
I'll step up to the plate and make a proposed list of "readily available" Tix bases.
And in case someone just can't find the right base, I'm tossing around the idea in my head of using a pair of tweezers and thin, white adhesive tape strips and placing them on the tix wheel through the bottom window. Have to make sure they stick well and won't fall off once pressed in place. (Black strips if you need to cover white). Really easier to get the right base in the first place.
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Post by ionicdesign on Dec 27, 2007 14:57:51 GMT -5
And in case someone just can't find the right base, I'm tossing around the idea in my head of using a pair of tweezers and thin, white adhesive tape strips and placing them on the tix wheel through the bottom window. Have to make sure they stick well and won't fall off once pressed in place. (Black strips if you need to cover white). Really easier to get the right base in the first place. Or you could use acrylic paint. With a little care that might be easier, you'd just need to use thin coats and use a blow dryer to carefully dry each section before moving to the next.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2007 17:09:44 GMT -5
And in case someone just can't find the right base, I'm tossing around the idea in my head of using a pair of tweezers and thin, white adhesive tape strips and placing them on the tix wheel through the bottom window. Have to make sure they stick well and won't fall off once pressed in place. (Black strips if you need to cover white). Really easier to get the right base in the first place. Or you could use acrylic paint. With a little care that might be easier, you'd just need to use thin coats and use a blow dryer to carefully dry each section before moving to the next. Acrylic paint with a thin brush would probably be best, since we're looking for ways to avoid physical harm to the bases. I had though of using maybe paint-pens, but I think they might be too chunky for such detailed work.
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Post by dvandom on Dec 28, 2007 1:39:49 GMT -5
Fine Dremel cutter head. Score a line in the desired black section. Paint white. It won't be solid white, but it'll be Good Enough, and won't wear off. To reduce the percent, just scrape off the paint with selfsame Dremel head. ---Dave
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