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Post by superflytnt on Oct 29, 2007 11:53:15 GMT -5
Hey folks:
If ANYONE has a question that they want a fair, unbiased, rational ruling on, please put it here. If we see the question as something that we need to address, we will get it on the docket and handle it accordingly.
Please feel free, and keep the questions to us concise, clear, and focussed.
Thanks!
The Panel
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Post by Radar on Oct 29, 2007 14:59:51 GMT -5
We have rulings on the numbers and types of figures usable in a tournament.
Officially: No more than one Silver tournament figure, no more than one of any individual Gold based figure, no Megas.
Typically: No more than 5 of any individual figure.
Q: How does this apply to back-ups?
Can I have a Silver han on my team and a Silver Chewbacca in back-ups?
What about a Gold Ki-Adi Mundi on my team and another in back-ups?
Can I have 5 Beasts in my team and another 2 in back-ups?
Can I put a mega in back-ups?
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Post by Turkish Van Cat on Oct 30, 2007 15:26:27 GMT -5
What about Wolverine's (M1-09) special? It says:
Q: Does Wolverine have to be the figure that defeated the leader?
Q: Does the leader even need to belong to your opponent?
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Post by superflytnt on Oct 30, 2007 16:06:19 GMT -5
Good questions both. I have added them to the list.
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Post by Turkish Van Cat on Nov 2, 2007 17:03:04 GMT -5
Mystique's effect states:
Q: Suppose you get a free move and attack for a specialist. Are you allowed to use this effect for the free attack, or does the effect have to actually occur on your turn?
It seems to me that it would be legal to possess in this way, even if it's in the middle of your opponent's turn, but I'm not entirely sure.
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Post by superflytnt on Nov 2, 2007 19:08:11 GMT -5
Of course you may use the effect as an attack in the event of an attackback-specialist, it's pretty standard fare.
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Post by Turkish Van Cat on Nov 3, 2007 16:16:06 GMT -5
But you're limited to one use of each kind of special per turn. Say you have two mystiques and S4 sandtrooper goes down and is white. The attacktbacks aren't even during your turn, so would the "one of each kind of effect" rule be void, or would you still only get to use the one on your opponent's turn during the attackbacks and then another possesson your next turn, or what?
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Post by greyelephant on Nov 3, 2007 19:31:41 GMT -5
So are you asking that if you already used Mystiques effect and then the Sandtrooper went down would you be allowed to use your other Mystiques effect? If you ask me, yes you should be able to. My reasoning is that you have a "free move and attack" emphasis on FREE.
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Post by Turkish Van Cat on Nov 5, 2007 11:39:46 GMT -5
The attacks may be free, but does that free up the rule about only one use of each kind of effect per turn? Sandtrooper gives two free attacks, so what I'm saying is whether or not both of those attacks could be possession attacks.
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Post by malform on Nov 5, 2007 11:48:20 GMT -5
The attacks may be free, but does that free up the rule about only one use of each kind of effect per turn? Sandtrooper gives two free attacks, so what I'm saying is whether or not both of those attacks could be possession attacks. I think you are confusing "effects" with "special powers". You may only use one type of effect per turn (these "effects" are normally printed on the back of the figure, like with mystique). There is no cap on how many times you may use a specific special power per turn. |
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Post by Turkish Van Cat on Nov 5, 2007 12:12:38 GMT -5
Well, Mystique's effect is her possession attack. She, by the rules, can only use it once per turn. But how does that apply to her attacks that are not made on your turn, or that are "free attacks" during your turn due to attackbacks? I'm talking about her effect, not her special power; sorry if I wasn't being clear. I'll try and illustrate what I'm trying to say with an example.
One team has 2 mystiques, another brotherhood figure, and the S4 sandtrooper. The other team has, say, 4 Kit Fistos and S4 Starter Han. The mystiques advance and , miraculously, are not shot down. Han shoots down the Sandtrooper, who is white, giving two free attacks for specialists. Each Mystique moves up and touches a Kit Fisto. Are they allowed to capture both Kits in this attack? Can they still only use one of the effects during the attackback? How does the "one effect" rule play out when the effects aren't used during your official turn? What if they happen to get two separate attackbacks, like if two tie pilots are shot down, as opposed to a single multiple-attackback?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2007 8:44:19 GMT -5
What about Wolverine's (M1-09) special? It says: Q: Does Wolverine have to be the figure that defeated the leader? Hmmm... It's specific about Wolverine getting the Move/Attack, but not about whether or not he has to initiate the chain of events... That question actually just popped up in a match I had last night. I'll be looking forward to seeing it resolved.  |
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Post by greyelephant on Nov 7, 2007 8:48:52 GMT -5
Posted by Turkish Van Cat on Nov 5, 2007, 1:12pm
Well, Mystique's effect is her possession attack. She, by the rules, can only use it once per turn. But how does that apply to her attacks that are not made on your turn, or that are "free attacks" during your turn due to attackbacks? I'm talking about her effect, not her special power; sorry if I wasn't being clear. I'll try and illustrate what I'm trying to say with an example.
One team has 2 mystiques, another brotherhood figure, and the S4 sandtrooper. The other team has, say, 4 Kit Fistos and S4 Starter Han. The mystiques advance and , miraculously, are not shot down. Han shoots down the Sandtrooper, who is white, giving two free attacks for specialists. Each Mystique moves up and touches a Kit Fisto. Are they allowed to capture both Kits in this attack? Can they still only use one of the effects during the attackback? How does the "one effect" rule play out when the effects aren't used during your official turn? What if they happen to get two separate attackbacks, like if two tie pilots are shot down, as opposed to a single multiple-attackback? |
Great question. I would still have to say "free" is free. So in other words yes, she should be able to possess the figures. However, this is a MUST for us to delve into deeper. |
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Post by ionicdesign on Nov 7, 2007 9:44:00 GMT -5
Great question. I would still have to say "free" is free. So in other words yes, she should be able to possess the figures. However, this is a MUST for us to delve into deeper. Sure, and the other thing is it is only once per turn, but is this still "his" turn, or his opponent's so the previous possession is not longer an issue? So it comes down to when the "turn" is over, is it after you're done, or after your opponent is done? Hmmm  |
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Post by YodaBreaker on Nov 7, 2007 22:15:06 GMT -5
Indeed, the definition of "turn" is something we should probably take up, given that it's times like this when a formal definition would clarify some gameplay points. Thus, I'd pose the question:
When does a player's turn officially come to an end? The moment the player can't perform any actions absent a special power? The moment his/her opponent moves his/her first figure? The moment the player starts his/her next movement phase? Some other time?
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